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ampillion on 15 June 2007
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Quickdraw McGraw said:
Bodhesatva said:
 

This is pretty much in line with my views.

Violent games about killing super spies and space aliens don't have to stop existing entirely to attract adult gamers, they just need to stop dominating the landscape (you may laugh at my examples, but consider all the games this includes -- Resistance: Fall of Man, Gears of War, Splinter Cell, Metal Gear, Halo... virtually every "killer app" that's has been or will be released on the 360/PS3 in the last year fall in to this category. Killing space aliens and super spies, every time). Similarly, lots of violent and/or sexual action movies that are clearly aimed at young males can exist as long as there are enough serious films made to allow the art form to grow and be taken seriously.

The problem right now is that "hardcore" gamers hold up games like Grand Theft Auto, Gears of War, Metal Gear Solid and God of War as the pinnacle of gaming. This is the apex of the video game world, and as long as that's true, there really isn't a lot of room for video games to become a legitimized art form instead of a childish entertainment.

I just wanted to point out that just because certain games are violent, doesn't mean they can't be targeted towards a mature audience.

You used Metal Gear Solid as one of your examples. What makes Metal Gear only targeted towards a teenage and/or immature audience? Are intricate plots with good character development considered immature, or even senseless violence? Sure, you have a point with some games such as God of War (ie. More blood and gore, essentially violence, then necessary), but that doesn't mean every game that contains or even about violence makes it intended towards a teenage/immature audience. Many RPG's, and games such as MGS are good examples of games that can be enjoyed by adult/mature audiences, without being senseless blood/gore.

I'm not going to tell you your views are wrong, because it all comes down to opinion. You have a valid point with games like God of War, Gears of War, and even Halo, but you can't discredit games with violence, for the sole purpose of those games containing violence.


 I don't think it's so much that he has a problem directly with violence in video games. I mean, we live in a fairly violent world as it is. And some stories, some ideas and concepts just can't be done with a lack of violence. If every game was non-violent, that would get stale too. I think it's moreso the fact that it seems like a majority of games are being made just for that group. I'm not really going to hunt down numbers to compare the numbers of violent to non violent games in production, but it just seems that way. And it could just be the times we live in. Sex and Violence has sold for years, now video games are going that way too. And just like music and movies, people don't really enjoy having the market command that the majority of things go that way.

Like I said above though, so long as it caters to a mature crowd, that's not an issue. Just don't cater to the braindead bunch, and we're golden.

Anyway, as for the actual topic of the thread!

It is rumor, so I'm believing we'll see this one squashed. Or at least, the game will be a timed exclusive, before the PS3 and Wii (if its the same game or a different version) are released. I just cannot see Namco-Bandai alienating the japanese market by sticking it on the 'gaijin' system only. You'd have to toss them a ton of money to want to ruin their sales, I just don't see Katamari doing great at all on the 360.