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"There is no such thing as a "right on the basis of being human". Those are simply social constructs. There isn't anything inherent about humans that procludes any of us from living in subjugation or in anarchy. All rights are man made. "
true but i figured it would be obvious that i was speaking with regards to how society works
living in society grants certain rights to all who live within them
blacks, for example, were denied these rights because they were seen as property
anyway the right to feeling safe does not exist if you want it to you have to push for the sacrifice of freedom to the state
and that is what i've been saying all this time
why do you think the right to bear arms exists? it exists to grant each individual the ability to defend themselves
and that's why there is so much anti-gun propaganda, to take away the freedom to defend yourself and instead force people to rely on the state for protection
"by changing social norms through social pressure and education."
look i'm done arguing on this point if you want to believe that through education we will reach a condition where women can always feel safe feel free to believe so
"By the same token, not wanting to be sexualized, catcalled, paid less, discriminated against in male dominated jobs and educational paths"
the issues with pay, discrimination in work and education were noble and great pursuits and have succeeded
for example, the pay gap is a myth : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-gap_b_2073804.html
with regards to sexualisation and catcalling i also want both to stop
but what type of sexualisation though? are you talking about women sexualising themselves for attention?
"I have met some of the crazy feminists who flip out when a guy holds the door open for them"
they have the right to do so the man should have been minding his own business
"We're just looking to morph social norms of gender behavior towards something more equitable. "
nonsense if that were the case there wouldn't be calls by feminists to grant women extra protection
also there would be calls for the gender divisions in sports to be taken out
for women to have equal representation in the hard dirty labour that is conducive to constructing everything you see around you that generally has to be done by men
there would be no feminist opposition to having women fight on the frontlines with men etc
when these issues are raised the excuse is that women are not cut out for such roles so men have to take up the slacka dn it can't be both ways
it is quite clear to me that what feminism wants is for easier lives for women at the cost of men
