| contestgamer said:
Extreme feminism is ridiculous, most women just want equality. We don't want to be treated like sexual objects, like sidekicks to men. You don't need the state to do that, it can be done by educating men. A lot of things about how men interact with women and other men has changed for the better without the need of state action - simply social pressure and education has brought about those changes. Same idea is behind most civil rights movements. |
"We don't want to be treated like sexual objects"
how are you going to stop some men from treating women like sexual objects without restricting their freedoms?
do you not understand that this what the ultimate goal is?
to exchange freedom for safety?
"You don't need the state to do that, it can be done by educating men."
You are deluded because you are not using logic your reasoning is contingent on what makes you feel good
you do not seem to be able to acknowledge that people will choose to do things that harm others despite what they are taught
i have done this myself when i put my interests above those of someone else and i'm sure you and every single person here has done so
"Same idea is behind most civil rights movements."
Are you speaking of what happened with blacks, for example?
no that's a different situation altogether, what happened there is that they were basically given access to rights they should have had on the basis of being human
the same happened with women when feminism actually had a proper goal with regards to the emanicipation of women
feeling safe is not a right, it is a condition that each individual must take steps to secure for themselves
what i'll telling you is that the only steps available for you to feel safe at all times is to leverage the power of the state to strip away rights
and funny enough regardless of whether you acknowledge it or not this to an extent is the current goal of feminism
i've had the revelation recently that feminism and socialism are tied to each other
in that the goal of both is to give the government as much power over the people as possible in exchange for services that keep people safe, provide jobs etc
