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pepharytheworm on 04 November 2014
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bugrimmar said:
pepharytheworm said:
bugrimmar said:
Equal rights between men and women eh?

Sorry, but the fact of the matter is men and women are not equal. In many things, men are better. In other things, women are better. Are you going to suddenly tell me that the NBA should integrate men and women in the name of equality? Should we pay female basketball players the same money as male basketball players?

That's just stupid. We live in a world where men and women have different strengths. Equality for sexes is impossible and if you try to do it, you just wind up with a bunch of crap that doesn't make sense.

So yes, feminism is garbage.

Females and males can have certain advantages physically but that doesn't speak for every male or female or every task. Do you seriously believe that the best WNBA players are worse than the worst NBA players? I have seen plenty of women more capable than me in a variety of task usually held as males being superior. Equality doesn't mean 50/50 amount of people in every facet of life, it means equal opportunity to develop such skills and being able to use the skills aquired and judged on those merits. It has been tested repeatedly that the exact same resume with only the names changed from a typical male and female name, the male name would be called in for an interview more often. Do you not see that feminism exist because of people who think like you do? 


Eh? NO, even the absolute best female players in the world would get wiped away by a combination of 12th men in the NBA. Are you freaking serious? You're downplaying the obvious advantages and making it seem that the points are small.. come on, the advantages are freaking huge in many facets.

Just because you see women more capable than you, it doesn't mean women are just more capable. Maybe it's just you. Think of the whole world before you make such a statement.

FACT: men are stronger and that strength carries in many professions. Put your head around that for a minute. In 95% of competitive sports, men are absolutely better. Women are probably only better at style based sports such as figure skating and gymnastics but anything strength based, men are obviously better. Men are also absolutely better at tasks that require physical strength, such as construction, police, army/navy, firefighting, as well as anything that requires people to carry stuff.

FACT: women hold no scientifically proven physical/mental advantages over men. This means that yes, women can be just as good as men in terms of jobs that do not necessarily require physical strength. This means that the playing field is level, so it's up to the women to show their worth and prove themselves, just like men do on a daily basis.

FACT: It's a competitive world and men are scientifically more competitive due to hormones and competition makes people more driven to perform better. That's why men are more naturally able to get better positions. Don't blame lack of opportunities, it's just individual performance.

FACT: Those same hormones make women more emotional and better at nurturing and/or other tasks that require a deeper understanding of feelings. You can interpret this in any way you want.

Don't pretend things are equal. Men and women are too different and can never be equal. That's it.


This is the last thing I will say but I want to understand your mind set.

Hypothetical: I will keep the basketball theme since it was already stated but you can change it to any activity seen as male dominated based on their typical strengths. Two people are trying out for the basketball team at their highschool. One is clearly dominating the other in almost every ability and even height. At the end of the try-outs the coach picks the less skilled player. When the better player asks the coach why they weren't chosen he replies, "You were the least qualifying canidate. While you clearly excel.....at the end of the day you are a woman and because of "biology" and "statistical analysis" on what men can usually do he was the better choice, but if you are serious about being part of the team cheerleader try-outs are next week."

Now in this instance do you truly think that is right and correct? 

But no matter the answer I want you to really think about this; no matter what you do, what you think you are good at unless you are the top of your field, there are women who can do it better than you. Statistics do not apply to individuals.