How Microsoft got Beautiful-Katamari Exclusivity..what will be next?

[Bodhesatva]

ampillion said:

ckmlb said:

Bodhesatva said:

 

I'm not sure if you've ever noticed, but I do praise Ico and Shadow of the Colossus to the sky (especially the latter). I have specifically said that it's the only game I played on any console last generation, and I did so because it fascinated me. I was not disappointed.

However, these are literally just two games; that's it. That's really all I can name, at all, that attracts the adult side of me. That's pathetically small given the library of 1400+ PS2 games, and not even starting on the PS1/Xbox/360/PS3 titles. And if we're talking about attracting adults, it's not as simple as making an aesthetically arresting game. It's most definitely a start, but the problem lies in this: basically every game that people love on the PS/360 -- including Shadow of the Colossus -- has Guns, Swords, Cars, or some combination of the three. That's a problem. Guns, Swords, and Cars, Guns, Swords and Cars, over and over again. It just screams "teenage boy fantasy land," and that is the essential theme that video games need to get away from to attract mature adult gamers.

The games that will attract adult gamers aren't Metal Gear or God of War or Gears of War. In fact, as I've said, I think those games are antithetical to the cause. It is games like Brain Age, The Sims, Cooking Mama, Wii Sports, and Wii Health that are bringing adults in (I believe that last one will be the most important of the bunch) Most importantly, I believe this will finally give video games a chance to be something more than a puerile preoccupation -- something more than Guns, Swords, and Cars. And War, always War. I'm tired of the e-thug market.

I'm not even going to argue anymore if you rather play those mini games go play them no way of convincing you, I guess everyone who plays the other kinds of games are all immature because they are not 'adults' like you are... Get off your fuckin high horse.

Don't forget to conveniantly ignore all the other hardcore games that don't have guns or gore in them like RPGs and such... Yeah Tidus was an e-thug I can see it now...

There are a lot of games that are mature, violent games that are actually pretty good. I mean, me and my friends enjoy the occasional 'Spaz out and do whatever the hell we want' in GTA, because IMO just going nuts with the game and handing the controller off after you're caught is pretty fun too. There are some games though that make more out of the blood and violence than the actual gameplay.

I've got no problems with too many violent games, moreso the people who play them. If you're an adult and can avoid acting like a total moron because you're playing a violent video game (That e-thug syndrome), hey, all for it. The problem is, some games cater directly to that. And some people are just too stupid to realize that, yes, playing a video game and pulling some seriously sweet 'killins' does not make them tough or cool.

So hey, play all the video games you want, regardless of what other people say about it, considering the amount you've typed in posts, I can at least assume you're not one of those dolts, so do what you want. While I won't support bashing casual or mini games themselves, because I've had just as much fun with those in a group as I've had with things like Halo, GTA, Goldeneye. I think your complaints are more aimed at the people who think developing fifty of them is a good thing. (And the developers themselves.)

This is pretty much in line with my views.

Violent games about killing super spies and space aliens don't have to stop existing entirely to attract adult gamers, they just need to stop dominating the landscape (you may laugh at my examples, but consider all the games this includes -- Resistance: Fall of Man, Gears of War, Splinter Cell, Metal Gear, Halo... virtually every "killer app" that's has been or will be released on the 360/PS3 in the last year fall in to this category. Killing space aliens and super spies, every time). Similarly, lots of violent and/or sexual action movies that are clearly aimed at young males can exist as long as there are enough serious films made to allow the art form to grow and be taken seriously.

The problem right now is that "hardcore" gamers hold up games like Grand Theft Auto, Gears of War, Metal Gear Solid and God of War as the pinnacle of gaming. This is the apex of the video game world, and as long as that's true, there really isn't a lot of room for video games to become a legitimized art form instead of a childish entertainment.