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teigaga said:
o_O.Q said:
the thing about this is that ok women have to go through a lot of unwanted advances from men because of men acting on their sexual desire for women

but what is the solution?

even if we sit down with boys and reiterate to them over and over and over again that certain things are wrong

there will be some who will still choose to disregard what they are told and continue doing what they want

people in society generally understand that murder, theft, rape etc are wrong but they still happen why? because some people will choose to disregard the laws and commit acts of evil

behavior occurs on a spectrum meaning there will always be people who will go beyond the accepted standard for behavior

however, i personally think men as a whole need to start focusing less on garnering approval from women and instead spend more time in improving themselves and pursuing activities that they find enjoyable

i mean i can't really believe that there are businesses that profit from teaching men how to draw in women telling guys they need to do this, this and this spending loads of money all for what? to feel validation from a woman? just seems lame as hell imo

i think to a large extent this stems from the pressure that is placed on men to be appealing to women, that if you cannot appease women then you are not a real man

should men choose to tone down their vigor in terms of pursuing women, they are not real men etc

ironically a lot of this shaming actually comes from women

so its partially a self perpetuating problem shame men for pursuing you, when they stop and withdraw their attention shame them again for not being man enough to appease women etc

All of what you said is very true. The thing is I don't think a thing like this requires a black and white response, but more to offer a chance for people to reflect that maybe their advances really aren't wanted. The amount of guys who are like ''WTF, they're just saying hi'' is evidence that many people don't even consider this.

 

i suppose that this generally stems from men having to initiate things with women in the vast majority of cases

 

so for women then to tell them that they don't want them to initiate contact is a bit of a shock

 

i'll try to analyse what may go through a guys head: since women don't generally initiate the contact and i'm not supposed to either where does that leave me with regards to relationships?

 

they may be asking themselves: how then do i get with someone i like etc

 

just looking at this from the male perspective