How Microsoft got Beautiful-Katamari Exclusivity..what will be next?

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ckmlb said:

So you figured out I hate mini game collections, non games and 'innovative' games, congratulations it's not like I was hiding it. There is a difference between a non game and a casual game, but I don't like either types.

Console games are more artistic tha PC games, if your definition of hardcore games is only to shooters then that's very limited and I don't agree with it.

It's not an inferior controls scheme if everyone is using the same one, I don't like the idea of PC versus console multiplayer either because of the control system difference, it's not about inferiority or superiority.

You want artisitc video games? Go play Ico, Shadow of the Colossus or Okami. They are all console games and there is nothing on a PC that is even nearly as artistic.

Also for the record I prefer playing FPS on PC as well. I'm not a massive FPS guy, I like only a few and the one I play the most is Battlefield 2 on PC. I play Halo for the single player not the multiplayer, same with gears (though I dabbled in multiplayer a little).

The only console shooter that seems like I would be interested in playing online for hours upon hours is Warhawk because it reminds me a lot of battlefield with Warhawks and I like the sound of that a lot.

I also prefer RTS on PC, I tried to play C&C on 360 and I was going to shoot myself in the face it was so annoying. Endwar that's coming to consoles might fix that issue with voice commands but who knows...

So the idea that hardcore gamers are really on the PC and consoles are made for shallow experiences is false. I play the following games on PC: RTS, FPS and MMO and the following on consoles: Action, RPG and Adventure.

Don't label console gamers as not hardcore just cause you prefer PC hardcore games. Have you ever played Ninja Gaiden? Tell me that's not a game where you need to get skilled at to beat it or even RE4 actually.

Anyway I hate minigames, party games, 'casual' games and non-games.

I'm not sure if you've ever noticed, but I do praise Ico and Shadow of the Colossus to the sky (especially the latter). I have specifically said that it's the only game I played on any console last generation, and I did so because it fascinated me. I was not disappointed.

However, these are literally just two games; that's it. That's really all I can name, at all, that attracts the adult side of me. That's pathetically small given the library of 1400+ PS2 games, and not even starting on the PS1/Xbox/360/PS3 titles. And if we're talking about attracting adults, it's not as simple as making an aesthetically arresting game. It's most definitely a start, but the problem lies in this: basically every game that people love on the PS/360 -- including Shadow of the Colossus -- has Guns, Swords, Cars, or some combination of the three. That's a problem. Guns, Swords, and Cars, Guns, Swords and Cars, over and over again. It just screams "teenage boy fantasy land," and that is the essential theme that video games need to get away from to attract mature adult gamers.

The games that will attract adult gamers aren't Metal Gear or God of War or Gears of War. In fact, as I've said, I think those games are antithetical to the cause. It is games like Brain Age, The Sims, Cooking Mama, Wii Sports, and Wii Health that are bringing adults in (I believe that last one will be the most important of the bunch) Most importantly, I believe this will finally give video games a chance to be something more than a puerile preoccupation -- something more than Guns, Swords, and Cars. And War, always War. I'm tired of the e-thug market.