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MDMAlliance said:
Teeqoz said:
MDMAlliance said

Like most people who say something is a stupid decision, it's stupid because you don't like it.  I know that's your reasoning because you don't even explain why it's stupid beyond "X and Y is region free" and "I don't like the reasons they gave."  

Pretty much every system has a form of region lock on it, whether they leave it up to the publisher, put it on the hardware, or put it on the software.  The motivation for keeping more strict forms of region lock have a lot to do with how people work around it and how some people abuse the system.  Region lock sounds like a dumb idea until you find out that there are actual legal reasons why it's put into place.  Nintendo doesn't WANT to region lock systems for the sake of region locking them.  Like every other company, Nintendo is interested in making profits.  Given what happened with the DS with flashcarts, I imagine that has a good bit to do with their reversion to their strict region lock.  


How the f*** can you know my reasoning? It's not just that I don't like the decision. I'm saying it was a stupid decision based on what we know now. I might not have said that 4 years ago, but based on what we know now it was not smart.

 

Their reasons for why (besides the general "it's for the sellers"):

1) localization takes a long time. 

Exactly, which is why you shouldn't force people to wait potentially several years to play a game if their okay with playing it in Japanese (or whatever). This might even cost sales, because in the period beetween release and localization all hype might be dead.

2) Marketing deals.

Marketing deals existed during DS era as well, and it both MS and Sony can have regionspecific marketing deals, yet somehow they can have region-free consoles. That proves that it's not a legal problem.

3) "All kinds of circumstances"

Those circumstances are also present with their competetion, and were also present during the DS/PSP era. Again, if their competetion can bypass those circumstances, why can't Nintendo?

 

You know my reasoning? Please, don't be such an arrogant a****** and think that you know what others think.

 

So your reasoning is more like you don't even understand the issues, then?  Fueled by your not liking it.  
The reasons he gave were parts of the reasons why it's because of the sellers side.  If you reread the translation there, it's pretty clear that a long localization process is part of the reason why it's not good for the sellers.  It's a small part of the reason, but it is a reason nonetheless (some games are impacted more than others on this).  

And also, your example of Sony and Microsoft with region-free consoles is lacking.  They still have forms of region lock, it's just not tied to their consoles.  Nintendo is giving the reason why things have to be region locked in the first place, not why they decided to lock the console itself.

The final point on there does apply to all competition, but it really comes down to each individual companies weighing of benefits and costs.  Nintendo was heading that direction with the DS, but I'm sure you should know by now that a lot of hacking of the system went down, and a lot of pirating and in general the flashcarts caused problems as well.  Nintendo decided that the region free model didn't help, and that the benefits did not outweigh the costs in the particular instance.  

The fact you read it the way you did still tells me your reasoning is based off of you not liking it.  Especially the way you worded the portion about localization.  It is correct that doing what the consumer likes is sometimes a good way to improve business, but the consumer can also be unreasonable.

And the fact you use the word "stupid" also shows your reasoning.  You may have other reasons, but the sole driver for it is still that you simply don't like it.  Saying certain systems are region free and that's why it makes no sense shows that you don't know how these things work.

 

You just went from just being arrogant, to also being condescending. Congratulations. Would you like to explain to me what I'm not understanding?

PS4 physical games are region free. PSN and related stuff isn't always, but the games are.