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Giggs_11 said:
How come people love to pretend they know how many consoles are sitting on shelves and make assumptions about consoles sold to consumers out of thin air?

I see a lot of PS4s standing on shelves when I walk into a store, and I live in a small country where Sony owns like 90% of the market. It isn't hard to believe like 2-3M sitting on stores. PS4 is selling like a motherf*****, so wouldn't be hard to imagine they're overshipping. If 500.000 stores around the world have in average 5 PS4s on shelves, that's 2,5M PS4s shipped not sold...

Anyway, I digresse from my original point, shouldn't we discuss the shipped consoles instead of trying to guess consoles sold to consumer, since it always ens with a discussion? Shipped are the most accurate numbers we have, and if they ship those many consoles they're probably going to sell sooner or later, I mean, these companies don't ship consoles without speciaized analysts tell them to ship x consoles.

Or maybe we could use a golden rule to apply on every situation we hear about shipped consoles. Like for instance, 10%-15% out of shipped are in stores every given day, huh? How about that?
Cuz how things are right now I'd take VGChartz numbers over any opinion a user on this forums make. Although VGChartz is often wrong, at least they have better sources than any user, cuz, y9u know, that's their job...

Using a percentage would be stupid since then you'd have to say PS360 have 8m+ on shelves each...which obviously is not possible.

VGChartz is more often than not way off on hardware sales, only getting close due to being able to update based on official sources. 



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