Xbox One Install Times "Should Be Faster," Microsoft Exec Admits

[Ganoncrotch]

Jimbo1337 said:

ganoncrotch said:

Because that kind of practice is common among people who want to assure themselves and/or others that they aren't heavily biased. "See, reason X, Y and Z are why I chose PlayStation over Xbox/Nintendo."

One very regular complaint last generation was that Xbox Live Gold has a subscription fee, so about every two to three months there was a thread about that topic. These longwinded threads to complain have disappeared since Sony introduced their own online multiplayer paywall, so it's clear that the people who complained the most about Microsoft's paywall were Sony fans, even though they didn't own an Xbox and had no intentions to own one.

I guess the bottom line is that you don't understand because you aren't so biased that you have to spout nonsense to feel better about yourself.

What an amazing paragraph, this should be nailed to some peoples heads.

I think the key difference is that Playstation Plus had value in their online service with the tons of free games that they offered monthy.  XBOX Live was 50 dollars at the beginning without any sort of value like we see today.  Even when they increased it to 60 dollars, what value did they add to XBOX Live?  When Microsoft introduced Games with Gold, consumers finally saw that their 60 dollar purchase was justified.  

But spin it how you want it.  The only people that were complaining about the subscription fee were Sony fans....right.....

Realistically for me paying 50euros a year for XBL wasn't too bad since I made a lot of use of youtube on the system in the sitting room, don't think I ever whined too much about paying for it considering I'm used to paying a sub having played wow since Vanilla til today.... but anyways I disagree with you, being given games like Gears of War 1 or Halo3 really did not increase XBL's value to be equal to that of what psn+ offers imo so the threads would still be in place if it was Xbox live gold members complaining about having to pay the fee... I say "having to" been busy a while now and not had gold in a few months so it's not like Xbox owners don't have the option of not paying for gold if they have issues with it or time to make use of the sub.

There is no spin to be had here, those threads about paying for Gold still existed long after games with gold was introduced anyway.