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Seece said:
JustBeingReal said:
Seece said:
JustBeingReal said:
It's equally possible that the Xbox One is over-tracked by 500k and Wii U is under-tracked by 300k.
We don't have official specific numbers for either.

Even if XB1 accounts for 1.5 million of those 2.4million Xbox console shipments between July and September it doesn't mean Microsoft sold all of them, new retail regions were probably over stocking to make sure they didn't run out and they overestimated the demand in tier 2 regions.

How on earth do you think WiiU is 300k undertracked. Unless you think Nintendo shipped like 1.5m WiiU's (Triple last Q')


It was sarcasm, you know because the OP pulled numbers out of nowhere and anyone can do that. ;)

Shipments don't tell you what the exact sales are, shipments don't mean much in the grand scheme of things, not to the end figure anyway.

 

Microsoft and Nintendo need to start updating with actual sold through to customers figures, instead of this shipped nonsense.

No they don't, because these figures are for investors and what they have sold (and if they have sold to retailers that's what they have sold) all that matters.

The numbers arn't released for the purpose of armchair analysis on web forums.

 

And whilst I don't agree with Toast's figures, shipments are most certainly not useless when it comes to this kind of discussion.


Yes they do, because shipped figures by themselves don't give investors any solid basis in fact for what direction that part of the business is going in. Shipments aren't an accurate measure for what the actual cashflow is back to the company and investors want as accurate information as possible to make their judgements on where they're going to invest.

 

It's not about web forums, it's about everyone that could potentially buy stock having accurate sales data to make educated decisions on where to invest or knowing exactly what is going on.

 

Shipment data by itself is useless, because it's not telling investors what the actual reality of the sales situation is. As far as this discussion goes Toastboy made his thread claiming what the sales were, based on the shipped data (not even a solid shipped figure for XB1 at that), it's about as useless for arguing actual sales as you can get.

 

The best anyone can say is X and Y company shipped X and Y amounts.

There's no evidence for the sales and sales are what this thread is about, right?