Bayonetta 2 - an expression of freedom and not sexism

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TheJimbo1234 said:

o_O.Q said:

TheJimbo1234 said:

I would suggest you get a dictionary and look up the word "extreme". You are swinging from one end to the other and somehow think you can logically argue either point. As I said, you need moderation. Hiding everything is just as bad as letting it all hang out. Both obsess over their body and how much to show. Like I said....what happened to the middle ground. (You don't think this is the first time I've argued this right?)

If you are a hetrosexual man, you will find breasts arrousing unless you have some major underlying issue such as depression....but that doesn't mean they are not arousing, but that you have a disorder preventing yourself from having the normal reaction.

 

"Hiding everything is just as bad as letting it all hang out. Both obsess over their body and how much to show."

ok so hiding her body does not empower a woman as you said before?

well actually personally i have no problem with any arrangement, it is actually you who had the problem with revealing clothing

and as i said women who are fighting for to be empowered disagree with you they, for example, want to be able to walk around topless

they do not find this to be degrading as you said and i'd have to take them more seriously since they are in fact women

 

"If you are a hetrosexual man, you will find breasts arrousing unless you have some major underlying issue such as depression....but that doesn't mean they are not arousing, but that you have a disorder preventing yourself from having the normal reaction."

 

that is not true, attraction and arousal happen across a spectrum they aren't black and white as you said

Ah, so this is a pedantic argument then. Ok, I'll spell it out to you so you can wrap your head around such a simple idea; a basic level of modesty helps anyone (male or female), however either extreme (full exposure or total cover) is unhealthy and hinders the person. Too much on show means the woman is wanting to be recognised primarily by her body, and full cover means they are ashamed/do not understand how people work e.g. Why cover up your knees? Not many people have knee fetishes so why cover it up, especially in a hot climate?

And that is my point; moderation. A word you keep ignoring thus I recommend you go look it up.

As for topless women, did you not read what I said about sexual organs? And why take them seriously? They are a tiny minority and most women would agree they are full of crap....but of course you seem to back the loudest but smallest groups.

 

Wrong, arousal is instinctive. It is what makes some human. Unless you have a disability or illness, it is the same for everyone. If you want to argue that, go get some journals that prove your point as there is a plethora of literature on my argument (and as mine is the most widely held opinion, you need to back up your point).

 

"Too much on show means the woman is wanting to be recognised primarily by her body"

Tell that to nudist women they'll just laugh at you

 

"They are a tiny minority and most women would agree they are full of crap"

fair enough i would agree that they are a minority, but their opinion is their opinion

 

"Wrong, arousal is instinctive. It is what makes some human. Unless you have a disability or illness, it is the same for everyone."

I didn't say arousal wasn't instinctive

however, i did say the stimuli for arousal wasn't the same for everyone and i stand by that