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vivster said:
binary solo said:
vivster said:

Don't know. Still think that 17m is not as easy to achieve as some might think. I even heard people talking about 19 or 20m.

Good that I don't have a bet riding on it :)

I'm still thinking 17 M is just out of reach right now. But people who think 15 million is where PS4 maxes out just don't understand how these things work. 15 million from here to 1 Jan means only 3.6M and that's 0.4M less than PS3 (PS3!) at the same stage of its life. Does anyone sane really think no gaemez PS3 is going to have done better than PS4 will?  I don't think so. At this point it's a fairly sure bet that PS4 will sell another 5 million before the end of the year. meaning 16.5 milion as I have estimated for a while now. But 5.5 or even 6 million is in the realms of possibility, though without really compelling software (LPB isn't quite that) I don;t think it will get much beyond 5 million.

Well, I didn't say 15 max. It could very well reach 16m but that would already be quite a feat.

But you're still posting as if 16 million is a fairly unlikely prospect, when in fact 16 million is highly likely. So while 15 million might not be your max what you're writing indicates that 15.X million is your effective max because you think higher than that is not ver realistic. But I'm saying 16 million really represents a fairly modest achievement for holiday sales in the context of how PS4 has sold Jan-Sept. 4.6 million for the holiday period for a console selling as well as PS4 up to now is really more like a minimum expectation, not a maximum. Supply issues won't stop holiday sales from reacing as high as 6 million, but beyond 6 million you are probably going to start to see supply problems. So there's nothing on the supply side that could prevent PS4 from surpassing 16 million.



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