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mornelithe on 17 October 2014
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Dark_Feanor said:
mornelithe said:

Again, you reference the NPD leak in July, but don't provide a link to what you're referring to, and who made this leak.  That's the problem.  But, you are making claims about the veracity of NPD and the trusted insiders who, every month, provide NPD information.  As Ethomaz (or someone else) stated, those who provide false information are banned from Gaf.  And the mainstays (Aqua, CreamSugar etc..) are known quantities, who we all generally depend on for NPD leaks.

I'm not saying you should quit anything, I'm not saying you're lying, I'm simply saying you're not backing up your claims with even a modicum of supporting data.  And when you have that kind of response, versus NPD which is...I mean let's face it, the industry depends on NPD for US numbers...it's hard to actually give your points any serious consideration.

 

At that time it was a commun statemant to assume the gap was between 600k and 750k. Last year gap was only 100k. We also knew PS4 sold almost 2x the XOne in January (150k?), February was close (100k?) and March closer(50k?), them for April, May and June was a given there that PS4 beated by close to January numbers and ratio. 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/07/18/npd-hardware-sales-numbers-leak-for-june-2014/

Total year to date:

  • PS4 – 1,577,000
  • XB1 – 1,101,000
  • 3DS – 768,000
  • 360 – 464,000
  • Wii U – 448,000
  • PS3 – 337,000
  • Vita – 128,000

Edit: The best I could find about the consolidate opinion on Neogaf.

For May: 

– Wolfenstein: The New Order platform breakdown: 41% PlayStation 4, 38% Xbox One, 13% Xbox 360, 8% PlayStation 3
– Minecraft: PlayStation 3 Edition sales: 89,000 units
– 370k < ∞ < 380k, bundle ~ 6.6%
- Wii U + Xbox family < PS4
- 200k > PS4 > 100k > XBO > Wii U > 360 > 50k > PS3 > Wii

Ok, so now I guess I'm having trouble understanding how a consolidation 'opinion' (which comes across as, not derived from NPD, but personal analysis), reflects poorly on the known quantities at Gaf, who leak NPD information (Aqua/CreamSugar etc...)?  You're going to have to explain this to me a bit more for me to understand the angle you're coming from.  I would imagine that not everyone who is a member of Gaf, has access to NPD, so much like VGChartz, some folks may simply see trends and try to extrapolate margins from there (using their whatever resources they have available)?  Again, I'm just kind of confused, because opinion doesn't suggest that it's set in stone??  Sorry for being dense about this.