Which "Mature" titles are actually immature?

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rocketpig said:

De85 said:
I think Bioshock and Mass Effect use it well with the political/moral undertones. Gears and Halo 3 use it poorly as they're just vehicles for kids to shoot each other and insult each other's mothers.

If they're not trying to be anything more than mindless action, there's nothing wrong with M ratings on some games. Halo and Gears are no different than your average R-rated action movie though both are quite well done, something most action movies only dream of achieving.

There are plenty of T&A, blood n guts, shit titles to go after instead of two of the premiere console shooters this generation.

But doesn't the mindless shooting make the game immature? I agree that there's nothing wrong making immature games for immature people as long as they don't pretend to be something else. Brain Training would make a good use of 18+ rating. @Red4ADevil: Really? Interesting thing to say about one of the most sophisticated cultures in "western" history.