| sundin13 said: And I repeat: "The sound levels reported by all witnesses do not match the sound level of an explosion that would have been required to cause the collapse of the building." Explosion is a very vague term, but a heavy explosive like what would have been required to bring down the building would have been indisputable. I am not denying that people heard things that they may have refered to as explosions, I am saying that the accounts do not line up with what would have been necessary assuming explosions were present. If an explosive was used to bring down Building 7, it would have been heard by everyone within a half mile radius. The audio reports from the time of collapse do not show this as to have occured. Sound isn't a binary thing...it exists in magnitude. I repeat one more time, eyewitness accounts do not match the SOUND LEVEL of an explosion that would have been required...whether or not people heard something that they described as an explosion is irrelevant. It is all about sound level "one side did not collapse first it can be clearly seen in any film of the event that the middle fails first then the whole building falls almost uniformly downward" When I said that one side collapsed first (my words) I was refering to the eastern penthouse's collapse. You may argue my terminolgy of "side" but theres no point in arguing that. We have nothing to discuss in this particular section. No need to get in a huff...
Basically, the building's collapse pattern was described in full.
"the original premise was that witnesses were interviewed and asked if they heard explosions, meaning that with that said we are relying on the testimony of witnesses so either you trust what they said about hearing explosions or you do not use that in an investigation, its that simple"
They had eyewitness reports (to a further level than "did you hear an explosion" which tells very little(remember, sound is not binary and magnitude is important)) as well as audio files from that day which are not consitent with what would have been required to bring down the building. Why can you not use audio files to measure sound levels? There is a good deal of science based around audio recordings and with live and personal cameras pretty much everywhere that day, it would have been easy to detect. I have watched numerous recordings with sound of Building 7 falling and have not been able to detect anything with my own ears (despite some of them being labelled as clear audio evidence of explosions), which indicates that explosives of the level required to bring down such a building were not a factor in the collapse of Building 7. |
"Sound isn't a binary thing...it exists in magnitude. I repeat one more time, eyewitness accounts do not match the SOUND LEVEL of an explosion that would have been required...whether or not people heard something that they described as an explosion is irrelevant. It is all about sound level"
lol i can't really believe that i have to break this down but here goes
ok so we both agree that conventional explosions have to have a signature sound level
sound intensity is measured in decibels
can you tell me the decibels of the sounds that witnesses associated with explosives at the scene?
you can't can you? why is that?
" I have watched numerous recordings with sound of Building 7 falling and have not been able to detect anything with my own ears "
lol i can't believe that this is where this has degraded to
so your ears are adequate for performing sound analysis now
and to clarify this point does the report say that they analysed the sounds of recordings?
i thought you said that their analyses was asking people to report if they heard explosions?
boy oh boy lol i must say the level to which people will go to to overlook uncomfortable information is frankly amazing to me
i mean obviously if something is uncomfortable or even horrible we may not want to analyse it
but consider that people are being killed by the millions because of this and also your rights and freedoms are being stripped away
the only way that this can be reduced is to wake up from dreamland
edit: i should have clarified before though that i'm not even really sure myself that it was explosions
