| sundin13 said: a. I say "important" because the WTC was a pretty big center for worldwide commerce, but that isn't really important in this discussion. It is illogical because there is far to large of a leap between the evidence and the conclusion. Forgive me for not reading all of this thread...its fairly crazy at times. b. I didn't say symbols are meaningless, I said that if they are put in a meaningless context, then they don't always hold that meaning. An image isn't always a "symbol"...not every pyramid holds the context of the illuminati's pyramid and not every cube holds the symbolism of the masons. Cubes and pyramids and triangles are immensely common shapes, so we cant impart this meaning unto them every time they appear. c. Most of the evidence these illuminati supporters follow is propagated by youtube conspiracy theorists. If the Illuminati actually exists, I'd be willing to bet that it is nothing like what most people think. I am not going to dispute the possibility that the illuminati exists, I am just saying that a lot of this stuff is ridiculous and most of this "evidence" is strung out of context (as has already been shown a few times in this thread). d. Using the puzzle metaphor, the illuminati is like a one hundred puzzles mixed together, with a bunch of paranoids yelling that all the pieces fit into some crazy picture, when really you are just jamming pieces of cardboard together and pretending everything fits. As I said before, what the illuminati actually is (if it exists) is just one of those puzzles in the mix, but it has been blurred beyond meaning by all these crazy conspiracy theories. The illuminati cannot be debated as a whole, because theres too much extraneous junk mixed in and labeled "illuminati" to figure out what anything actually is. Most of these conspiracy theorists are making tremendous leaps of logic and as a self proclaimed "critical thinker", that just isn't logical. The quickest way between two points is a straight line, not some ridiculous twisted pattern, embracing all of the world's problems. |
a. well there's various evidence out there here i'll give you a taste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PY_qM28rnA
"It is illogical because there is far to large of a leap between the evidence and the conclusion. "
based on what? your own investigation or what you have been told?
b. fair enough that's true that's why i said with regards to the symbol, comic, 911 memorial that obviously i could not be sure that they really are connected
but i'm more inclined to believe they are but that's me
c. "Most of the evidence these illuminati supporters follow is propagated by youtube conspiracy theorists. If the Illuminati actually exists, I'd be willing to bet that it is nothing like what most people think. "
i personally don't claim to understand how this whole thing works all i'm saying is that there is evidence that shows that what we are led to believe is false
"most of this "evidence" is strung out of context"
can you give an example?
d. "Most of these conspiracy theorists are making tremendous leaps of logic and as a self proclaimed "critical thinker", that just isn't logical. "
looking at evidence and deriving a conclusion based on the evidence is logical
you may not always reach the right conclusion but imo its the right process
