Nintendo's reluctance to build new IP's is killing their brand

[Jizz_Beard_thePirate]

Purple said:

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Well... If you really do think that "new IPs" sell hardware regardless if they are any good or not just as long as they are new, then maybe we should compare the "New IPs" of both platforms... So, if we look at the list of top selling new IPs the wii had that Nintendo published, it had:

1	Wii Sports	Wii	2006	Sports	Nintendo	41.16	28.76	3.77	8.41	82.10
2	Wii Sports Resort	Wii	2009	Sports	Nintendo	15.48	10.77	3.26	2.92	32.43
3	Wii Play	Wii	2006	Misc	Nintendo	13.91	9.15	2.93	2.84	28.82
4	Wii Fit	Wii	2007	Sports	Nintendo	8.92	8.03	3.60	2.14	22.69

5

Link's Crossbow Training

Wii

2007

Shooter

Nintendo

3.04

1.15

0.29

0.46

4.95

Also, keep in mind the dates! So, in the wii's first year, the wii had two brand new IPs that Nintendo published, Wii sports and wii play so if we look at the wiiU. The wiiU also had two brand new IPs that Nintendo published on its first year, Nintendoland and Wonderful 101! So did that help the wiiU? Nope! Then you take a look at its second year, the wii had one new IP called Wii Fit. So, for the wiiU, what did it have? Well, it has Captain Toad which is a brand new IP, is it going to help the wiiU sell more hardware? Nope! So then, Nintendo skips the third year with its new IP in terms of top selling but the wiiU is getting 3 new IPs next year from Nintendo! You have Project Guard, Giant Robot and Splatoon! So are they gonna help the wiiU a lot? Probably not!

So, lets count the new IP list on the same time frame that is published by Nintendo. Wii had 5 new top selling IPs and the wiiU has 6 in the same time frame! You can continue to go down and find some more like Wii Music but by that point, their "old IPs" out sold the new ones so at the end of the day, my point is... New IPs like wii ____ and other niche new IPs don't matter when it comes to selling a console! What they need is a big budget new IPs with great marketing, not just "New IPs" like they had with the wii. (As well as manyyyyy other things)

I definitely never said new IP's sell hardware regardless of quality. I have no idea where you got that from.

Your next paragraph is incredibly confusing. You've handpicked only  five games (including Crossbow Training bizarrely?) and then compare them to EVERY game on Wii U to show there are the same number of new titles. The Wii had way more new IP's than the ones you have listed.

Let me quickly list the two major points of what I am saying because i feel like you don't understand.

Nintendo had a heap of success in creating new and interesting IP in the Wii and DS era. For some misguided reason they are now creating fewer and less ambitious new IP. This is a problem because...

Nintendo's franchises are declining in popularity. Simply releasing iterative upgrades has led to fewer and fewer people picking up the games and systems. This is true for every Nintendo franchise released on Wii U and 3DS. This should be extremely concerning for Nintendo.

Well... It wasn't exactly handpicking, I simply went to vgchartz, went to the top selling in the wii platfrom, and picked the new IP's from top to bottom that sold the most excluding their sequels cause you said "If Wii Sports was the only new IP that sold well on the Wii I'd say you have a point. But just to make this clear, the vast majority of best selling games on the Wii were completely new IP."

And I got the idea from the fact that their new IPs were terrible that sold the most that were published by Nintendo...

Have you actually played wii play?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/wii-play

Or wii music?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/wii-music

Or Wii Party?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/wii-party

and etc? Cause those were terrible games but they were new IPs created by Nintendo that sold the most... Wii Sports was bundled in for free with every single wii for free and with wii sports resort came out, it got bundled in with the wii. Heck, show me ur list then of these epic new IPs that you speak of which are made by Nintendo that sold better than Nintendo's old IPs on the wii