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Kerotan said:
benji232 said:
Kerotan said:

what i'm about to tell you is fact. you can't rate a game unless you buy it. you can't even see the thumbs up for games unless you buy it let alone give it a thumbs up. My whole discussion has been in relation to the star ratingsa not the thumbs up but I was just pointing out that over 50k people who bought infamous digitally gave it a thumbs up. I highly doubt 1 in 4 people even bothered doing that. Seriously doesn't take a genius to work out it had decent digital sales. 

Which thumbs up are you talking about? If you're talking about giving a "like" to a certain game, then no, you do not need to own it digitally in order to give it a like as I've given thumbs up to nhl 15 and destiny by simply owning digital copies of those games.

And whatever, if it's what makes you happy, then go on and believe that Infamous Second Son sold 500k+ copies digitally and that Destiny already sold 300k+ copies digitally. 

What are you smoking! I said my theory supports Second son selling around 300k digitally not 500k. Read my posts properly please. 

And if you're referring to the same thumbs up as I am you're absolutely wrong. Maybe you're taking about something in the activity feed or something like that. 

But I'm not. Pay attention to the following. I just went on the PS4 store, clicked destiny and the only option is "add to cart". I can see the start ratings but not the thumbs up ratings. (Because I haven't bought it). Now I have the NHL 15 demo so i went onto that and low and behold the "add to cart" option is replaced by the thumbs up rating thing. 

For the actual game it's not there because once again I've not bought it. SO yes the 50k thumbs up on infamous EU store are from actual digital buyers of the game., Meaning that realistically unless everyone who bought it decided to give it a thumbs up it has likely sold a few hundred thousand digital copies. 

Now I've a feeling you're going to say that for games you own on disc you can rate them so I checked and once again you can't. I have both Killzone Shadow Fall and BF4 on the disc and when I go to them on the store once again I can see the star ratings (but not add my own) and I can't even see how many thumbs up it got. FYI it's got 20k star ratings so it looks like that game sold a lot of digital copies. 

Getting overly defensive here, I see lol. Here is a quote from your OP "The likes of infamous second son have 10k ratings on the store so would it make sense if that game had 500k downloads? Anyway this IMO is our best way to estimate digital sales for a game."

I was talking about the thumbs up on the PS4 home screen. I'm still pretty new to the PS4 OS as I've just purchased it a month ago. Now, as I said, I'm not here to start a debate on how many copies Infamous Second Son sold digitally (as I don't even care about that game). I'm just saying that the methodology that you suggested in the OP would have a huge error margin and would be nowhere near enough accurate for it to be considered a good way to measure digital sales. Obviously, there are games that people are going to be much more inclined to rate then others. For example, a bad game, more people will go rate it negatively because they're mad about their experience with that said game. 

But you know what, if you think that your methodology is actually good. Then go ahead, and use it. I really don't mind. In fact, if it does actually work out and I'm completely wrong, then more power to you because I'd love to one day be able to know how much each games sold digitally.



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M