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Intrinsic on 05 October 2014
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mZuzek said:
fluky-nintendy said:

One million looks good right? 

-I don't think so. WiiU took more than 4 months to sell half of the numbers PS4 sold in Destiny's week.

1. If you think the Wii U has to do anywhere near as good as the PS4 is doing for it to be a relative success, you're completely wrong. At this moment, the Wii U's goal is to sell reasonably well on its own, not winning some nonsense wars against the other consoles.

-MK8 is selling extremely well even to this day. But it didn't move as many systems as people had believed it would be. So SSB., being even more obscure than MK and being cross-platform with 3DS, won't move just as many systems as MK8 did.

2. Of course MK8 didn't sell consoles, it's not much of a system-seller on its own - however, it does strongly push people into wanting the console during christmas.

-The belief Christmas is always good for WiiU might as well be a downside this year, now that the competition is also more interesting/strong and offer a vast range of games to chose that people will consider getting without thinking rather than a 1st party WiiU obscure title.

3. Christmas is good for Nintendo, it's always been and it will still be. The competition has more interesting titles this year, but their target audience doesn't hold off until the Holidays to buy consoles as much as Nintendo's do, and as such they don't have quite the same boost. That said, when the hell has Smash Bros. become an "obscure" title?

-Most Nintendo fans don't care bout graphics and that's a proven fact (and it's also ok). They will simply get the 3DS version if they only have a 3ds. SSB won't be a decisive game into buying a WiiU if you were on the fence. Nintendo seemed to make 3DS WiiU's more feracious rival right now.

4. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U's biggest selling point over the 3DS version is not the graphics.

-MK8 is proving that people still buy tons and tons of Nintendo games but Ninty isn't really capturing new audiences as they would like to be capturing.

5. This is true, but Nintendo still has a big audience and there's still a very big chunk of it that are yet to make the move to the Wii U.

Bold.

  1. Firstly, selling better than your competition is not a "nonsense war" I strongly doubt that nintendo came into the 8th gen to fight for and settle for second place. But you are righ though, the focus for the WiiU and aruably the XB1 should now be to just focus on selling well enough to be a finacial success even if that means coming second or third.

  2. This is more opinion than fact. Especially when you consider that the only factual thing about it applies to every platform out there. Basically you are saying that having a good library of great games will help make the decision of purchase easier at the end of the year. Thing is that applies to every other platform too, every other platform has games in their library that individually may not be reason enough for you to buy in but collectively they will be.

  3. Its funny how much of a short memory people seem to have when trying to push an angle. It has and will always be? Really? is this by any chance based off an analysis of nintendo sales for a console that at th etime was the hottest trending item in the gaming universe? And you and people that think like you still somehow believes that that still applies now? I don't think so. Lets look at the GC. Were its christmases better than those of the PS2? How did the wiiUs frist christmas o for it?But Iam sure the excuse theer will be they didn't ahve games.

    Time will tell on this one though, we are just 2+ months away. But I don't think or see xmas being much good for the wiiU. Simply cause I don't believe that a console that has sold extremely poorly for 2 yers will suddenly just start flying off shelves.

  4. No no no no and no. It is completely ludicrous to assume that the fact that a game is also available on a more popular (better sold) platform will not affect the sales of the same game on another platform. Think about it, if people already own a 3DS, you really think that they would opt to spend $300+ for SSB on wiiU or just buy it on their 3DS for $50. I don't understand what nintendo were thinking, if nothing else, they should have released the game on the wiiU for at least 3 months before even announcing the 3DS version.

  5. LOL... big audience. I don't think most fans will ever come to grips on justhow the market really works. But chew on this, what's stopping this hypothetical very big audience from moving over to the WiiU after almost 2 years? Are they having that much fun playing tons of great games on their Wii? Nintendo will be very very very lucky if their wiiU can exceed the sales of the GC. That console represents the last core console nintendo made. The last time that their console sold purely off thedraw of the core nintendo games, and not due to a gaming fad that took the casual industry by storm. If you want to draw estimations on just how well the WiiU will sell, look at the GC numbers, don't look at the Wii.