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Arkaign said:
wary-wallaroo said:
Kerotan said:


I don't believe that excuse at all. They gave the 360 over 1 million imaginary numbers in Germany but won't do it for the PS4? It's common knowledge that the PS4 is undertracked on here for ASIA for starters and probably most of the EU. 

 

WHat were the reasons behind VGchartz being banned on neogaf anyway? 


From what I understand (never actually asked since the mere mention of this can get you banned on GAF), but ioi used to have an account there and often posted data that inflated 360 numbers to make it look better. Eventually, the mods got pissed and just banned it, so they banned ioi's new site as well to make sure the numbers didn't come back (VGC).

 

This is why I find the disparity between treatment of Xbox numbers and PS numbers to be somewhat telling. Not qutie a conspiracy theories when it seems we have at least some facts to back up the assertion. 

Fascinating. Do you have links to any of those threads on there?

FWIW I enjoy VGC and do not intend to attack the site, but it is pretty obvious that regardless of intent the PS4 numbers and Xbox numbers are regularly mistracked (not always, but 'often' enough to be a trend) in opposite directions. X1 was overtracked, and PS4 undertracked.

I just bear that in mind and it's useful to form an accurate analysis by contrasting VGC numbers with NPDs.

We're all human, we all have biases whether we admit it or not. I am somewhat ambivalent towards Sony and negative towards Microsoft myself.


Again, that's the story I've heard on GAF. I've searched for threads and I've seen the threads started by ioi there from a few years ago (and yes, it's clearly inflated for Xbox), but I make no claim of any kind here. Just offering that input. And again, I've never asked myself, I just learned this from those that did ask and were responded to by SalesGAF veterens like Aquamarine.

I enjoy VGC too, it just get's really annoying when it seems different rules apply to PS than those that apply to Xbox numbers. Not to mention, yes, sometimes GAF aggregate predictions tend to be just as accurate as VGC (and I believe even aggregate predictions here do too), and those are complete guesses.