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Qute said:
Teeqoz said:

Qute said:

 The fact that the fate of threads is destroyed and the fact that it's a location. Not a weapon. If we do that, we allow locations for Nintendo characters to use.

Kratos used the power of pandora to save the world, not kill Zeus. Did you also ignore the point that if Athena didn't interveine in GoW2, Kratos would have killed Zeus without Pandora

Sonic moves at mach 5 to lightspeed, he can literally speed blitz the entire roster of PS-AS before they can think. This means that Sonic can kill them before they do anything at all. I think you ignored his speed. The groovitron will do nothing if it's too slow.

Jak's weapon is called a supernova. It's just a name. If it was truly a super nova, the planet would be destroyed, along with several others. Yet, we don't see this anywhere. Furthermore, Samus has the sunburst so it's irrelevant. Nevermind that Samus with the speed booster is faster than anyone in PS-AllStars. She can splatter them with her speed before they even think. Also, Rosalina can protect anyone from universe busting attacks or less.

 Samus's weapons are easily capable of vaporizing and she can tank this with the Varia suit. This is ignoring her gravity suit and the other suits. I never ignored your counters. Really Ratchet would be doing nothing because he's too slow. Samus, as I said before, moves at mach 1.2 to mach 5(Sonic moves at mach 5 to lightspeed so you need to factor him) with her speed booster. She can literally paste the other team before they can think. She curbstomps Ratchet.


Again, Ratchet's shield (which he could easily activate before the fight), protects him from Sonic, and the moment Sonic even approaches him, Sonic will be hit by electricity, so everyone standing close to Ratchet would also be protected from Sonic.

Oh boy. You see, when we're debating about videogame characters, and they're abilities, then you can't use real life logic to counter it. Weapons in video games don't normally damage the environments as they should. Would you also say that Sonic can't run at lightspeed vecause that's impossible in real life? Or that Samus doesn't have nukes, because they don't destroy the entire area?

Samus's weapons are easily capable of vaporizing? That's good to here, certainly helps my case. Doesn't matter what suit she uses, because it would vaporize along with her. Samus can't hurt Ratchet because of his shield, and in 1 second the Groovitron will have activated and makes her dance.

Oh, I just remembered, Ratchet could use the mega leech bomb and literally suck the life out of the enemies.


Except Sonic would still be able to hit him before he hits him.

First of all, you claimed that the weapon shoots supernovas. I countered it saying that it should destroy planets. The only proof you have that it's a supernova is that his weapon is called by that name I never said it was impossible. I said they can't do it. Kirby also has a move called supernova, and it doesn't have super nova qualities. Furthermore, the Descriptions of their abilities say that Samus can shoot nukes or Sonic can run at mach 5 can do this. Whether this is in the manual or in-game data.

Doh, meant to say her powebomb easily vaporizes others. This does no damage to Samus and she can even heal from it.  The point about her speed is that she can kill Ratchet before he does anything. As well as Sonic. I don't think you guys understand, mach 5 is about 1701m/s. Unless they're really far, they can be speed blitzed before they do anything. In a second, Sonic can go as far as 1701m or 1.701km. Anything less, Sonic can paste him before they do anything. If any action takes a second, Sonic would already be there. Of course, this is assuming he goes mach 5 instead of higher speeds.

Samus literally faced life sucking enemies called Metroids. Nothing new.


Sonic wouldn't be able to hit Ratchet because of his god damn shield! I've been trying to tell you this for hours now!

Okay, you're right, I have no way of proving that it's a supernova, and you have no way of disproving it. The fact that it doesn't blow up the entire planet is because it's a video game. A nuke would destroy a city, yet Samus's nukes doesn't, right?

for tge third or fourth or fifth time, Samus would be forced to dance due to Groovitron. By the way, Ratchet has plenty of weapons that autolocks onto enemies, so he could also use that against Samus.

I'm fully aware of how fast mach 5 is, but that doesn't help Sonic, the moment he comes close to Ratchet he will be shocked by Ratchet's shield.