Leonardo DiCaprio is Captain Planet.

[darkknightkryta]

deskpro2k3 said:

The hole in the ozone layer is in the northpole.

 

Is that were it is now?  20 years ago they were all over the planet.  Or so they say.  Again, no one likes to talk about it anymore.

A_C_E said:

darkknightkryta said:

I still remember when they were blaming the holes in the ozone layers for scortching us.  They mysteriously disappeared 10 years ago.  Or so the media would like us to believe.  Now that "global warming" fad has faded they need to switch to something else to get government funding for.  Are there environmental issues we should be dealing with?  Of course, there is.  None of which are actually being dealt with.  Is "climate change" 100% caused by humans?  No.  There are factors everyone seems to be ignoring and there isn't even a clear idea of what weather patterns should be on the planet since we only started recording weather patterns for the past 100 years.  It's not enough time to know everything, especially when weather reverts back to old records.  "It hasn't snowed in this part of the world in 100 years!" yes, and I bet all those cars 100 years ago caused it to snow.

You say climate change isn't 100% caused by humans, and it isn't but the hugely vast majority of scientists (depending on area of research) who participate in climate change research would say the main cause is humanity. Since the industrial revolution human beings spew more CO2 into the atmosphere than volcanoes do every year. Humans nowadays pour 100 times the amount of CO2 into the atmosphere  every year than all volcanoes do on Earth, and the number is only going up. If our population were to get enough CO2 into our atmosphere we would turn into a Venus due to sunlight being able to penetrate the Earths CO2 filled atmosphere but not being able to escape. This isn't happening right now but it sure is developing and is evidenced through data compiled by scientist who work on the ice sheets. The difference between Earth and Venus right now is that most of Earths CO2 are in rocks and minerals deep underground with nowhere to go. Venus on the other hand has most of its CO2 deposits in its atmosphere causeing the heat from the sunlight to get trapped on Venus, a very unlivable environment. This is just one angle of climate change. It has very little to do with historical weather patterns, scientists are more than capable of broadening their research in various different manners.

I said there are other factors.  You're also forgetting that when the dinosaurs were running around, CO2 levels were way higher.  And what pre-tell are these "analysis" of ice sheets telling them?  That they're made of water and have mixtures of other elements?  I've seen articles and reports changing their tune every decade.  Only thing I've learned from them is that when they want more funding, they make more buzz words.  We literally don't have a concrete idea of what weather should be.  We're still in an ice age, the ice sheets grow and recede regardless of humans being around or not.  They're receding now, does that mean they're supposed to be increasing instead?  We don't know.  They're also conveniently leaving other external factors out, sun's gotten hotter for instance, or the fact that we're due for another pole change.  What's the point I'm trying to make?  There are a lot of factos to climate change, we're a small part of the issue, or a big part of the issue.  If we knew how the weather "should be" instead of what it "can be" then I'd be more inclined to agree with scientists.  They've also lost my trust with all the greed around them.