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the_dengle said:
Teeqoz said:


Then Palutena and the respawn ability is also a no limit fallacy.

@ thedengle, as I've already pointed out Ratchet (which seems to be the only character I need) won't let him use his mind because of the groovitron. Besides, They had to travel back in time to when he was still a baby to kill the embodyment of evil.

The groovitron doesn't stop people from thinking, which is all Ness has to do to crush said weapon down to the size of a dime.

Maybe you'd like to give an example of a time a groovitron was used on a psychic?

Also, text from immediately before the final battle against Giygas: "Giygas is no longer the wielder of Evil. He has become the embodiment of Evil itself... which he cannot control on his own. He is the Evil Power." Later: "Giygas cannot think rationally anymore, and he isn't even aware of what he is doing now. His own mind was destroyed by his incredible power. What an all-mighty idiot!"

Baby or not (he's not), he is still the "all-mighty embodiment of evil."


We don't really know about how the Groovitron works, it could work in favor of SSB, or in favor of PSAS. However, even if the Groovitron isn't able to pacify Ness, what about freezing time? Jak freezes time, Ratchet blows up everyone not invincible, and deploys groovitron.