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crushingsound said:
zorg1000 said:
crushingsound said:
Soundwave said:
Dunban67 said:
Nintendo has been teasing that the games are coming within the next 6 months or so ever since Spring of 2013- they said they would begin a consistent offering of compelling g software beginning in 2nd half 2013- Here we are in 2nd half 20014. Talking about how they will finally get the games out in 2015 - of course when 2015 gets here it will become the 2nd half of 2015 in which the games will come - At some point Nintendo may release a consistent amount of software but I'll take it seriously when/if it actually happens not because they Nintendo talks as if it is going to happen

I will be very pleasantly surprised if Zelda U releases in 2015

Re unified development for Wii u and 3ds and or home console and handheld- how Will they develop for both platforms w out either making the home console suffer by to compensate for the handheld specs or the handheld suffer via parts of the game being cut out in order to handle a home console title?


They'll just make the same game for both the portable(s) and home variant. 

I don't think Nintendo has much interest in graphics far beyond the Wii U anyway ... for most Nintendo IP, they look great on the Wii U as is (Mario Kart 8) and Nintendo wouldn't be willing IMO to make a $80 million dollar Zelda game or something anyway. 

By 2015/16, mobile chips will be able to provide PS3/360/Wii U level visuals, so I think what they'll do is they'll use one version for their portable and then just use the same chip for their home variant just with 2-3x as many CPU/GPU cores + double/triple the RAM. That way the games can run at say 1080P/60 fps on TV while being perhaps 540p-720p/30 fps on the road. 

Using the same chips will also let them get a cheaper price on the chips, allowing for the price of the hardware to scale faster in cost. 

The home console variant in this type of a setup could be extremely cheap ... perhaps like $179.99 to start with and scaled down in price to $149.99 in under a year. Also extremely small (think VitaTV/AppleTV size, maybe a bit bigger) and power efficient (sub 15 watt power consumption). I can totally see Nintendo doing this, it fits them like a glove. 

If you're hoping for basically a Wii U-2 (err ... GameCube 3?) though which is slightly better than a PS4 next time out, yeah you're probably out of luck. I think Nintendo is done with the traditional home console in a lot of ways after this gen simply because there isn't enough of a market for them. If all they're going to sell is 18 million consoles without a gimmick, well they can probably sell 18-25 million of these "handheld chip in a box" consoles too, probably at a slightly higher profit margin at that without having to invest in tons of R&D costs for hardware development (as they'd just be reusing the chipset from their handheld).

So much stupidity put together.

Pathetically putting ps360 graphics on the same level of wii u. sayin crap like "only 7 million base for bayonetta 2 and hyrule warriors to sell", as if that's the final installed base. saying wii u will only sell 18 million...

...And of course, the many delusions about nintendo's competitiveness and the moronic "strategy" described several times.

Wii U is much closer to PS3/360 than it is to PS4/One, that is a fact.

Wii U current install base is about 7 million so yes Hyrule Warriors/Bayonetta 2 currently have an install base of 7 million to sell to.

Wii U is tracking quite a bit below Gamecube in the same time frame, at its current rate it will only sell about 18 million.

This "moronic" stratety fits in with many of the things Nintendo has been hinting at in their investors briefings lately.

There is nothing wrong with any of the things Soundwave said in his posts, everything he said was based on facts, trends or actual quotes from the likes of Iwata & Miyamoto.

there's no comparison between wii u and ps360.

he mentioned nintendo could have a 70 million base for their products instead of 7 million for the likes of bayo 2 and HW. so, yes, it was like saying wii u current 7 million was its final ltd.

no way in hell wii u will sell that little. soundwave only posts negativity and delusions. he never says anything positive about nintendo. he's just a troll.

how is there no comparison? which games on Wii U are leaps and bounds more graphically impressive than PS360 games?

how can he say 7 million and 18 million are both Wii U final sales?

and what data/trends do u have to back up Wii U selling much more than 18 million? like i said its currently tracking a few million behind GC in tbe same time frame, which sold under 22 million, if that continues it will finish this gen around 18 million. yes its possible it sells more but using current data/trends it wont.

it doesnt matter that soundwave is negative towards Nintendo, hes actually a big Nintendo fan and loves many of their games, hes just very critical of them when they make mistakes. being negative doesnt change the fact that most of the things he says are based on truth.



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