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Puppyroach said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

What PR BS dude? Sony has always been a format leader in one respect or another (hence why Nintendo brought them into the industry in the first place). Any format Sony puts into their consoles always affects the mass market (They were all expensive until Sony dropped mass market price through game sales). It worked for CD's, DVD's, and then Blu Rays, making it easier for people to have a better format in their home with any brand. They have always been in the forefront.

Just remember...they took the fall for their risk and were bleeding through the teeth financially until it became a success. Microsoft forced everyone to buy the Kinect when they knew it wasn't as desirable as the previous gen. Now that they dropped the Kinect, lets wait and see how the market more accurately responds to the Kinect based on valid games coming out to make sense out of its existence. My Kinect is disconnected. 

There is a difference between taking a risk on a primary format and a secondary peripheral. 

The exact PR BS that you are repeating here. Bluray was in direct competition with HD-DVD and, although it certainly deserved to win that fight, they only installed it to make money of the customers while getting a huge marketshare in the Bluray market. To give you a hint of the attitude they had back then: http://www.joystiq.com/2005/07/06/sony-wants-you-to-earn-that-playstation-3/. You seriously think that THAT is the attitude that puts the consumer first-hand?

It´s the exact same attitude as Don Mattrick showed regarding the X1. Problem is, you seem to always only be able to see one side of the coin.


That is Kaz Hirai's attitude towards things and yes that represents Sony's but the sooner he got promoted the better. Despite his assholeish ways, he helped the PS3 make it through that turmoil causing his value to rise.   Just like people blame Balmer and Mattrick for the bad image Microsoft was given, so to was Kaz Hirai responsible for that image and the faster his face was out of the limelight and replaced by Tretton the better . No one can take that moment away. Even I refused to buy a PS3 until the price dropped, but when I got it I saw what the hype of Blu Ray was all about. Large file sizes, more clarity and the list goes on and on for the benefits. You obviously haven't known me but i've been here since 2008, if you heard what I said back then about Sony you wouldn't be so sure of my stance on things. If Yusuf Medhi was the head of running the Xbox division instead of Spencer the Xbox One would've failed because he would've had more resistence to consumers.

Sony regained consumer trust by delivering an amazing product with a fleet of amazing games that yielded nothing that they first launched with. Remember that (because they did not need). They proved the value of what they were selling. Just because Kaz Hirai was a dick, doesn't change the fact.

Microsofts launch mistakes included multiple offenses. Sony's was just being too expensive. If Blu Ray was at mass market price no one would've complained. The market ate up PS3's because they were the cheapest Blu Ray players on the market as well as the fact that it was a multimedia device.

If Sony hadn't set the standard as a model for Micorosoft to act, Microsoft would not have known how to give the people what they want.