Does MS really deserve praise for "listening" to consumers ??

[Mr Puggsly]

mornelithe said:

Mr Puggsly said:

This kind of thinking is childish.

If Sony wanted to a "solid" they would throw in some free games as well. Surely they can afford it!

Sony wasn't doing anyone a solid when the PS3 was $599. I didn't get one until it was $250 with Uncharted 2 and GoWIII. Not because they were doing me a solid, but because that's what PS3 was worth to me.

No, it's called having expectations as a consumer that companies won't intentionally seek to fuck you over.  Your kind of naivete is bad for the industry because it gives every company carte blanche to screw over the consumer, when in fact, it's the consumers job to reign these cocksuckers in when they step out of line.

Comparing the PS3 to the Xbox One or even the PS4 is a straw man, PS3 cost more than $240 per unit more than what they were charging.  If we were to apply that same model to current gen, the PS4 would be, what, $140.65?  Yeah, sorry, you can completely criticize Sony for developing 3 new technologies, and leveraging them through the PS3, absolutely.  But comparing the PS3's price to the PS4/XB1 is, well, ignorant of the facts.

You think companies want to do you a solid and you're claiming I have have naivete? That's funny stuff.

Consumers didn't care how much cost PS3 cost to produce. Simply trying to sell a console for a price that high was ridiculous considering the 360 was available and doing comprable graphics.

I'm glad X1 failed with its original plants and I'm glad the PS3 failed at its launch price.

I don't feel a need to hold a grudge on either though. Some people in this forum don't even like MS getting support because of their original decisions, that's holding a grudge.