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teigaga said:
Areym said:
teigaga said:

Why does matter who its coming from, it doesn't change the content of her argument. Just because you don't listen to Hip Hop doesn't mean you can't find issue with its objectification of women.

It makes it more compelling and far more valid if an "expert" or at least a person involved in the action (gaming, playing the actual game) is making these claims and arguments. You would not trust the word of an outsider than that of a seasoned player, would you?

The gender of the messenger is not important, that is true. However, if it is a woman who wants to bring some of these issues to light, at least make sure she is actively involved in gaming. It would resonate far more, especially to gamers, knowing that she is actively playing the games she claims are part of the problem.


Although there is a logic there, I think it only applies if expertise in the medium is required or heavily favoured. In situations like this I don't see why its so important. Playing a ton of Halo may make you an expert of the games mechanics, but I wouldn't argue that someone needs to play it a ton to form very valid judgements on its art. Infact whats very common, and what we're seeing (as made evident by people's often brutal responeses), is that a lot of the time those so heavily invested in the medium are either blind to alot of issue's because we're just used to it, or we have the knee jerk reaction to defend something we love. We see this a lot in fanboys

When talking gender roles, its not something games invented, its a real life dynamic games are representing. If you have knowledge of the topic regarding the real world, then you are more then capable of discussing it in games. The only thing I would bring into question, is that maybe an uninformed gamer might not pull on wide range of references and thus portray and unfair image of the industry if tehy're only stuudying COD and Mario. I honestly I have only watched one or 2 of her videos so can't really comment on whether thats the case with her.


Well, the thing is she tends to cherry pick situations in which a women is potrayed in a negative way. Like somebody posted here a video debunking her lies, it shows a footage from hitman absolution where the main guy is dragging a women's (a civilian, not an enemy) dead body and she's going off about sick, pervert pleasure and the likes. In reality, the game discourages the player to attack civilians and you are actively penalized to do so. In the mission, you can sneak past the women and guards or you can just brute force your way, it seems. It's that kind of shit that does not help her case because she has not experienced the entirety of the game and is simply picking a tiny portion of the game where one can act in such a manner.

You do have a point, gamers like us can become blind to the problems surrounding sexism in gaming. Still, i would personally respect and more incline to follow an active gamer from the youtube commmunity who would be making some (not all) of her points. 



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