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Soundwave said:
Iamdavirus said:
Soundwave said:
Iamdavirus said:
Soundwave said:
Maciveli said:
fatslob-:O said:
I am going to be real here ...

The PS4 isn't exactly what I envisioned it's performance to be since it's falling below expectations of how a market leader should be performing.

Sub 250K in North America for some months isn't "ideal" for a leading console. Perhaps just accomplishing the right moves isn't enough to muster up to the standards.

Sony is going to need to do something about this ...

Or maybe NA is not the be end all it used to be, maybe NA is becoming a secondary market.  

Given the lack of big titles, what PS4 is selling is quite awesome.  

Secondary market to what? You guys act like there's 50 different markets. 

Japan is basically gone. US is declining. I'm not even so sure Europe will match last gen's totals between the PS3 + 360 either. 

US is not declining except the wii casuals............Japan is smaller yes, thats understood, doesn't change the fact you are wrong.


US is declining too. 190k for a market leader is weak. 

PS2 was crushing 300k+ its first August and it's not like it had a ton of games at that point either -- that's what a strong market leader looks like. 

People have just lowered their expectations so much that this has become the new normal. 

Again you ignore all ponts....

 

It is 1 month for $400 consoels that sold WAY more then every console ever. at launch..of course it would be slow in August...ps3 and 360 would be too...360 the market leader had many months below 250k.............wii died.

 

Us is not in decline because of 1 month, that makes no sense....wait until the holidays, yuo will look silly.

You keep bringing up a pecific month ignoring total sales thjat is BS and spin....1 month does not begate it being the second fastest ever to hit 10 million, and SPT is going to be huge.

 

 

Also US <> world......there are other emerging markets picking up the slack.


PS2's holiday 2001 will absolutely *rape* any console this holiday season. 

PS2 has soundly beaten PS4 month for month this year pretty much across the board. 

Same for Wii if we look at the same months. 

Who said anything about ps2 or wii??? Again thats not what is being discussed. More spin

 

PS2 will never happen again it had NO competition for years, and tonnes of big third party exclusives like GTA.

 

Wii brought in the wii fad but dies early, again irrelevant and not comparable..

Not selling as well as either of those has NOTHING to do  with PS4 being weak sales wise. Nothing will touch those ever. It sold near 160 million if thats your definition of what it takes to sell well then ROFL...Ps2 was a perfect storm. Unrealistic expectations or just head in the clouds.