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Nicklesbe said:

You do understand we've been using the term "casuals" years before cell phones were even a thing. Perhaps you disagree because you are a dudebro? Not saying you are but it would make sense. Especially since you are so wrong about the terminilogy and think that dudebros have any skill when they don't and that they are better than "casuals" When they absolutly arn't They are often terrible at most games and have a tiny amount of succes in dudebro shooters.(which for the record was used for years to describe gamers that would play a viariety of genres and never really play competitivly, was used to mostly describe nintendo players). That's  why they spend most of the time playing multiplayer and ignore single player most of the time. Becuase they are terrible at it.


Sorry, I'm not a dudebro. I prefer to play varied games. The term casual player refers to someone that plays very few "real" games (console and PC). It's usually someone that isn't very used to a joystick so when he have to play normal games he will struggle with things like moving the camera with the right thumbstick or getting basic ideas in a game. A dudebro, as limited as he can be in varied games, knows how to do it.

About their success on shooters, you are heavily underestimating them. Do you really think someone that plays CoD several hours per day for some years won't get any good at it? I'm sick of getting on online shooters and have guys that simply are close to invencible. And talking with them, you get a pattern: you know the guy from Killzone, but he played BF, CoD and so on. And they are good at single player at least on that fps (come on, if you can get almost always at 1st place on an online match you won't have issues with dumb AI bots). And how being capable to do well at MP isn't skill? It's like that guy from the 90s that would kick your ass at KOF in an arcade.

Nintendo gamers aren't casuals. Most Wii (not Wii U) gamers were indeed casuals because they played Wii Sports or shovelwares based on motion controls. If someone said to you that Ninty players are all casuals, it was not me. Wii players were in a big part casuals, surely in a bigger percentage than PS360 or PS4/X1, but Nintendo gamers are just regular gamers as anyone on PS or XB is.