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torok said:
Nicklesbe said:
 

I do find it funny that one of the ones that got taken out by glass joe also lost in mario and was frankly the epitome of dudebro. I noticed Outlawauron said ealier that Nintendo fans rip on casuals now. I don't believe that is the case. As far as game play skill goes I would argue that casuals > dudebros and dudebros are the new "casuals". I think Nintendo fans, at least the old school experianced ones would enjoy ripping on them since in most genres(other then maybe a selct few dudebro shooters) those Nintendo "casuals" are far better than them. Nintendo "casuals" use to get a lot of flack since for years they were percieved as the least skilled in gaming. Now with this new generation of dudebros(that talk big game and think they are great, but in reality suck most of the time as shown in the videos) have taken that spot at the bottom of the ladder. Just my opinion based on observation of the current gaming scene. 


When people say casuals, it isn't that guy that finished several Mario games and is pretty good at it. A casual is a person that play only on smartphones, plays shovelwares and ocasionally plays some "real" games. But you can't really check someones performance at a game they didn't played. I'm not good at NES Mario. I grew playing Sonic and I can finish the SMS one in 20 minutes or take an hour and do almost 1B points getting 99 rings per stage and special stage plus all chaos emeralds. But I didn't grew up playing Mario, so I'm not good at it.

These shooter dudes can be actually massively skilled at that games. I usually am more varied in gameing genres, so sometimes I will meet guys at Killzone or BF that will simply obliterate me because they are pretty dedicated to that game. It's like a choice: being pretty good at one game or being decently good at several.

About casuals vs dudebros in games, I've being doing some user tests with games for a project and I have to disagree. Casuals are terrible, terrible players. They can't get the simplest concepts of using a controller. Just having experience with a game controller (like a dudebro), already puts you in another level. A dudebro would beat a casual on almost all games and probably obliterate them in shooters.

You do understand we've been using the term "casuals" years before cell phones were even a thing. Perhaps you disagree because you are a dudebro? Not saying you are but it would make sense. Especially since you are so wrong about the terminilogy and think that dudebros have any skill when they don't and that they are better than "casuals" When they absolutly arn't They are often terrible at most games and have a tiny amount of succes in dudebro shooters.(which for the record was used for years to describe gamers that would play a viariety of genres and never really play competitivly, was used to mostly describe nintendo players). That's  why they spend most of the time playing multiplayer and ignore single player most of the time. Becuase they are terrible at it.



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