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Never on 05 September 2014
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snowdog said:
Never said:
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curl-6 said:
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Both third party developed, Nintendo published Wii U games coming this Q4.

Which will move more units lifetime, and why do you think so?

Bayonetta 2 isn't third party developed, Platinum Games are an indie developer.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

Yes they are. A third party developed title is developed by a team that is owned by a third party publisher. An indie developer is an independent developer with no ties to a third party publisher or a first party publisher. That's what independent means lol.

I'm not sure who's developing Sonic Boom tbh, whether they're a third party or indie developer but Platinum Games are an indie developer and as such it's impossible for them to produce a third party developed game. No semantics here, it's a cold hard fact.

If  indies publish the games inderpendently (As a third party) you can easily argue they're third party.

But there actually quite a lot of room is room for sematic debate here. If they publish on the Nintendo estore you could actually argue that Nintendo is the publisher. You can also argue that Amazon is the publisher of all kindle ebooks and Apple is the publisher of all iphone games. Lot of semantics here. No cold hard facts.

If Platinum Games self-publish it's an indie developed game published by an indie developer. It's as much of an indie game as you can possibly get.

For Bayonetta 2 to be a third party developed game the developer has to be owned by a publisher that isn't a platform holder. Platinum Games are an indie developer, they're not owned or part-owned by any publisher. The first game, published by Sega, was also an indie developed game...it's a third party game, yes, because Sega published it. But whether a game is a third party developed game, an indie developed game, a second party developed game or a first party developed game entirely rests on the ownership of, or the lack of ownership of, the developer.

 

Bayonetta 2 cannot be a third-party developed game. It's impossible.


As I understand it Bayonetta 2 is a Nintendo published game. You could probably cassify it under the colloquial term, second party, if you chose.

However, the consept of Platinum game publishing as a "Indie" is where you're a fault here. Whether you choose to cassify platinum indie or not make no diffrence to the fact platium would be a third party publisher if they published it themselves.

There are third party publishers and first party publishers. If you self publish as an inderpendent you are a third party publisher. It's just you arn't a mainstream third party publisher.