Barozi said:
eva01beserk said:
Barozi said:
well I showed an extremely unlikely case, that cannot be proven true or wrong, but still has to be wrong in order for everything to make sense.
ioi didn't really made a mistake. He can't know the real numbers. Other trackers can't know them either.
we have other recent estimates for other countries (Japan, US a few of the big European countries) and some older estimates where we can see tendencies. We know in which regions it is definitely not too high, so we get an idea where it might be too high.
ioi doesn't have sources in every country the WiiU is sold. Some are purely "guesses" based on outdated data that had been released for previous consoles with no indication of how much that market is actually developing. It's very likely that it happened in those regions. Since we don't try to show sales data for every single country, there's no problem in just adjusting a whole region.
The rest is indeed experience. ioi (actually all of us) can easily compare all shipment numbers to the sales data on VGC (new and old consoles). That's an indicator of much it can be overtracked. The other being how much it's selling on a weekly basis and reports of people or retailers having trouble to buy/order more consoles.
Obviously no one of us can be right (ioi included), but (most of) those numbers that are thrown into the room are certainly closer to the truth than what is shown here.
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I know it was an unlikely senario. I meant that its to far from what I'm trying to say and your painted a picture that its only perfect if the acusaton is wrong unlike whats actally hapening.
I get what you are saying and I belive your right, and the method discused is right and that it is overtracked. But like you say yourself, no body can know the actual number and its just a guess. But even if it does not make sence, cuz is highly unlikely that it can happen this way its not really impossible. Ass long as is not imposible and you have no real clue as to where is overtracked you cant really say that it definetly is. Its like wining the loto, its unlikely to happe, but it hapes so you cant just rule out that possibility.
A question I responded to seece in this thread is that what if the sold was higher then the shipped? And that was senario where there would be no debate cuz the there can only be one answer and it was imposible to be that way. But this is not the case. Its unlikely that the wii u had 20k in shelves WW, but not imposible.
@bold: So thats basicly your answer to my previous question? So if you dont like the numbers you can take out a ramdom amount of the unespecify area? What happened to the thread ioi made when people where complaining about the ps4 10m thing? He said it dosent work like that and needs to know where he has made the mistake before adjusting the numbers and this is also the same thing. If this thing was done at random then this whole site has no validity.
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and yet he adjusted them recently without any new information...
I say it again. Those regions that aren't Japan, US, most of Europe and perhaps South Korea are nothing more than better guesses.
We know WiiU sales data in Japan, US, and most of Europe (the important European countries). What's left is Asia (-Japan), South America and Africa.
On VGC that's the Others region. So adjusting numbers to fit NPD, GFK, Famitsu etc. and then removing the rest from the Others region would be the logical thing to do.
Basically you say that we should keep the unlikely guesstimates of those regions instead of replacing them with more logical guesstimates.
How's that making the numbers any more realistic?
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Was it with out any new information? Did sony not anounced they sold 10m? like you said, they have the data for the main regions, so whats missing must come from the unspecifyed, so he added it to it, well almost all of it. But do we have anything oficial that says nintendo right know does not have 7.1m, under or over for you to know how much it should be removd from those unspecifyed areas? No. Like I keep saying, it might not look realistic but it could end up being real since we dont know any better and it was done with care to achive what we have now, changing on a speculation is far more unrealistic cuz you have no idea if its right or by how much.
To your question, yes. When you have solid proof, like when the next nintendo finacial release then do something about it, but now you cant do anything on a whim, even if it sounds better and logical to you.
