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Scisca said:
curl-6 said:

Gotta love this "Wii is an anomaly/fluke/doesn't count" nonsense that gets thrown around. Wii is no more anomaly than NES or SNES. Those three are what happens when Nintendo gets it right. N64/GCN/Wii U are what happens when they fuck up.


Whether you like it or not - it's true. Nintendo broke the rules of the game, went in another direction, found a different market and struck gold. Good for them. But that market is gone, that customer is gone and they have no clue how to find a new customer now. Moreover, they have abandoned the majority of their original customers when making that move. NES and SNES were a totally different thing - typical "core" consoles, they were the PS4s of their generations, not the Wiis. And it wasn't just Nintendo getting it right, it was Nintendo getting it right while not having such a fierce competition (SEGA was always the underdog). N64/GCN/Wii U is what the reality is with the big boys around. Wii is a fluke until they prove they can repeat that success with another strange OTT console. So far they have no idea how to do it and the Wii U Gamepad is the best proof for that.

There is no going around it, unless Nintendo claws its way back into the minds of core gamers, it will be squeezed out of the home console market. Add that to the fact that smartphones are dealing major blows to their handheld business and you have a company in some serious trouble on the horizon. We can only hope that the decent number of not-cartoony franchises like Bayo 2, Xenoblade Chronicles X and Devil's Third are the beginning of a new trend and not just a short experiment. Ninty has a lot of homework to do to change its image and teach its gamers to play mature games (1st and 3rd party). Stuff like that won't happen overnight. The fact that Splatoon doesn't feature Mario is another good sign though. We will see what the future brings for Nintendo I will support them once they cut the price of Wii U and release a Metroid Prime, even a Trilogy HD Remake

SNES and Wii had very stiff competition but still won. Wii U/N64/GCN are the result of Nintendo badly managing their systems, NES/SNES/Wii are what happens when they handle them well. 

I agree with some points, like that Nintendo needs to do a better job of diversifying their appeal, but the Wii did not abandon their fanbase; expanding into Wii Sports/Fit did not stop them making Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, Twilight Princess, Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Metroid Prime 3, Xenoblade...