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DerNebel on 31 August 2014
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eva01beserk said:
DerNebel said:
eva01beserk said:

This right here is gold. This is why it can be such a large gap betwen x1 shiped and sold while its such a small gap between wii u. I still belive the wii u is overtracked but not by a lot, 150k tops. While the x1 has to be over tracked a lot more than the 150k adjustment mad the other day. Considering that acording to Tak, it was overtracked in the US alone by 300k, wich is its strongest market, around the world it should be by a lot. I can say without doubt that the x1 is not at 4.5m yet, wii u close to 7m.

Yeah, no. This argument makes no sense, just because the X1 was overtracked in the US (post adjustment it's almost at NPD numbers now), doesn't in any way mean that it has to be overtracked in other markets as well. The Wii U was undertracked in Germany, but is clearly overtracked somewhere else in the world, for example.

No way in hell is the X1 below 4.5 million, MS had shipped 5.1 million of those at the end of March and then at the very least a couple 100k more at the end of June and by now another couple 100k more I'd say, retailers have no reason to hold over a million X1s in stock, that's ridiculous.

Maybe. But keep in mind that demand for the Kinect model is on the floor, so all those skus are still in stores. MS could ship more $400 skus all they want but that wont sell the other ones. So than inventory is almost frozzen on store shelfs and considering the instant drop of sales in may, I can see there being a few hundred K's in stores, While MS keeps shipping new $400 sku's that dont sell right away either so those are also piling up.

Since the x1 is only in 13 countrys I make that to be that a lot of retailers from the other countrys have imported a lot of them to their stores without any demand either, since the x1 only has demand in the US. So even if they count as a purchase in MS's books, since they have been sold by the original retailer, the reality is that all over the world are a lot of x1's on tier 2 and 3 countrys sitting on shelfs, because the demand is so low. All those should not count to the total sold through number.

How would MS ship all those SKUs if nobody is buying X1s? What store would keep ordering them? And why would retailers import 100s of thousands of X1s to their countries if there's apparently no demand for them there anyway?

The X1 is not below 4.5 million, the thing's sold 1.23 million this year in the US alone (according to NPD until the end of July) and another 70k in Germany until the end of June, that already puts it at 4.3 million, the X1 has easily sold more than 200k in the rest of the world in 2014.