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VXIII said:
Soriku said:
ikki5 said
VXIII said:

The first "cause", someone / something that is beyond the law of physics, timeless, and like no other thing that you can observe or fully understand.

 

Either you are a religious or "scientific", it requires you lot of faith to form a belief about this subject. The two debating camps have a lot in common and they never really realized it.


Not really, unless you take a deist perspective of god. Where some god created the universe but has since remained indifferent to it. The thing is we've always came up with a natural explanation for everything in science. There has never been one time where scientists concluded that something supernatural must have taken place. So if you just follow the pattern thus far, there's not much reason to expect a supernatural origin.


Waiting is your answer to the OP then? That hopefully scientists would come up with a natural explanation for the question in hand. Fair enough, but I call that faith in science.

Faith definition: "Complete trust or confidence in someone or something" :)

Oh yes, but what you have complete trust or confidence in makes a lot of difference.

- If you have faith the Earth is flat, it's just a guess.  You haven't been far enough, you don't have the tools to tell that it's flat or not, that's why you guessed wrong.  There are a lot of things people had pure faith in which turned out wrong, or remain unproven.  In fact at the time when our major religions were written, people didn't know a whole lot compared to what they do now.

- If you have faith that you can fly and pilot a giant robot with frikin' lazers on Mars then you are a trust and confidence Ninja who has done work until you could gain that confidence.

- Science is a process, and yes you can have faith in a process.  Like, I have faith that if you lay bricks one on top of another you will build something.

Science isn't waiting to find something, it's just expanding our understanding.  It's easy to have faith in that, given how far we've come.  What's the rush?  Is someone hurrying you to choose between waiting for understanding, and choosing the Flying Spaghetty Monster by Friday?  If some theory doesn't make sense to you, then you don't have to choose it.



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