Nintendo/Iwata's Bias Against The West

[Hedra42]

Zod95 said:

Hedra42 said:

I think you may have misunderstood the point of my post and the discussion it pertains to. It was not intended to show or prove that Nintendo is investing in the west. It was challenging the quote "In basically two years, Iwata dismantles...."

Then you've made the wrong quote.

I (and surely anybody else) think that arguments to a quoted post are challenging that post. This is common sense. I understood what was there to understand.

I've just gone back and looked where I posted that, and I agree, I've hit the quote button on your post and it looks as though I am challenging something you said, when I was actually challenging points in the OP. I apologise for the confusion there.

Hedra42 said:

NOBODY is disputing the fact that there are fewer western developers now than there were before. But that was never the focus of the OP or the discussion of this thread.

Look at the topic title. Yes, the OP points out the very obvious decline in the number of western developers over the past decade, but it uses this information to support the proposal that Iwata/Nintendo are biased against the west. This thread has been a discussion on whether or not the decline is indeed the result of a trend of bias or whether it is attributable to a combination of other factors.

 

I'm not saying just that, and you know it. I have been saying over and over again that Nintendo, along the years, has been deliberately disinvesting from the West, which is basically what the OP presented too. So, I'm on that very discussion. I just don't care about details such as which japanese worker did what or how were the legal contracts or the business options of each partner. That is only smoke to move our focus away from the essential.

We all know you have been saying over and over again that Nintendo has been disinvesting from the west. We all know the OP says that too. And we've all agreed with it, at least as far as game development is concerned. So the discussion you are in on is finished.

But the OP has argued that the reduction of western game developers is indicative of bias against the west. Whether or not this argument is valid is the main discussion point in the thread, and it is this which you are dismissing as details and smoke.

 

 

Hedra42 said:

You have repeatedly said in this thread that you are not interested in this discussion or its details, and by your own admission, have done zero investigation on it yourself.

No no no, I'm clearly interested in the discussion (otherwise I wouldn't be here), I'm just not interested in those worthless details that pull the wool over our eyes and prevent us from actually be in the real discussion.

What you are interested in is a single fact which neither I nor anyone else in this thread are disputing. What you are calling worthless details is in fact the discussion that everyone else is having. You are not interested in that discussion.

Hedra42 said:

I'm afraid that any conclusions and opinions based on zero investigation and local sayings don't really carry any weight.

Sometimes, a local saying carries universal truth.

As for the investigation, sometimes a microscope is not the best tool to see an elephant. Nintendo deliberately moving away from the West is so obvious that if you're doing investigation and you can't see it, maybe the problem is precisely that. Stop digging and narrowing your vision and look at the big picture.

Like I said, the point you were interested in, nobody is disputing. Let the rest of us continue to post in peace.