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Hynad said:

Nice excuse. But you're wrong. You may have no idea what Ultima is. But that doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't know what it is. And even if nobody here knew what Ultima is, that doesn't make what you say any more true. Don't you like looking at things without blinders? Or is Nintendo God to you and everything must come from them first?


I know what Ultima is. Ask any random on the street what Ultima is, though. Now ask them what Zelda is. I'd put money on you not finding anyone who knows what Ultima is, but never heard of Zelda. Mainstream. Zelda is mainstream. Pac Man, Mario, Pokemon, Final Fantasy, World of Warcraft, Call of Duty. Those are mainstream. Ultima never was any of that. It's no excuse. It's no Nintendo thing. It's fact. Zelda made open world games a 'thing' in a way Ultima never did and never could have. That's no slant on it's quality. It's a slant on it's prominence and therefore it's influence. It's like when people say Nintendo created the dpad or the analog stick. They didn't. Who cares though? They made it the standard.