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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
curl-6 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Without any evidence you can say anything.

How do I know you are just making up this suspective dev time so you can spin it as anti consumer? Not to mention PSN is still completely free. Only some of PS4's multiplayer utilizes PS+, none of the other network features require it, and only multiplayer in certain games utilize it, typically those with Sony's own servers.

CIP, PSN is completely unchanged. PS4's multiplayer was never included in PSN so to say they made PSN a paid service displays obvious ignorance because its a complete lie

How do I know you're not spinning it to defend Sony?

Charging for PSN in any capacity is anti-consumer. We already pay for our internet.

Well thats simply because the burden of proof is on you, you made a claim and I'm asking for evidence, I don't need to provide evidence if I'm just calling out that you have no basis. 

Not to mention my defense could apply to any game developer in the industry.

You are changing goalposts btw, PS+ is a service, people paying for goods and services is the very basis of consumerism. Free Services like PS+ are a previlege not a right, and really you pay for it through the purchase of hardware. 

Hell if you want to make that kind of faulty reasoning, paying for internet is anticonsumer because you already pay for electricity.

It's common sense that a game takes more than 3 months from conception to store shelves. I don't need proof for that any more than I need proof that the earth isn't flat.

Nintendo doesn't charge for online. Sony didn't initially either. Now they're decided to gouge consumers for more money. It's anti-consumer.