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Kaizar on 25 August 2014
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Michael-5 said:
DerNebel said:
Michael-5 said:

So you're saying if they made a trailer for the game and showed it off, it should be counted? Well they showed a dozen Arcade games at E3 for Nintendo, guess we should count Pushmo World, Mario vs. Donkey Kong, A Hat in Time, Art Acadamy, Tengami......the list goes on.

I'm not saying ignore Rime, Wild, Pushmo World, etc, I'm saying count them separately.

Oh I get you're point about Smash Bros., fair point, but since I said lets count Tearaway, then lets count Smash.

Agree to disagree? So I prove to you that Nintendo will get more exclusives (both retail and arcade) then PS4, and you want to agree to disagree? Are you going to ignore Nintendo's arcade games now because only PSN games count? Nintendo has more exclusives to offer, both Retail and Arcade, and if Wii if anything to judge the quality by, then we can expect more highly rated exclusives for WiiU then any other 8th gen console. This makes WiiU the best 2nd console to own after a PS4/XB1.

Admit to being wrong, simple as that.

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P.S. I find it funny how you only argued for PS4 being a better second console then WiiU. Do you admit XB1 is the worst 2nd console to own? PS4/WiiU make the best package IMO, + a 3DS.

Yes, those should be counted, in my opinion as soon as the game has warranted a seperate announcement (outside of a simple blog post) in the eyes of the publisher I'll count it. And no I'm not going to admit that I'm wrong, cause I'm not.

Why the hell count them seperately if people on PS4 at least are just as excited for those games as they are for the big retail games? Go to the PS4 exclusive elimination game thread and see, 2 of the 5 remaining games in the game are Rime and Wild. And No Man's Sky is probably more hyped than half of the retail games coming out next year, just to give an example.

I mean the fact that after all this arguing you still haven't noticed that 2 of the games in your original PS4 list of 12 are actually digital only titles makes me think that you are not really qualified to have this discussion about who has more games announced here.

And even if the Wii U has more games announced at the moment, so what? That thing has been out for a year longer and Sony (and btw I only talk about Sony, cause I'm not an Xbox fan and can't be bothered with finding out all that stuff about the X1) has shown that they are pushing announcements closer to release and that they are spacing them out over several conferences, other than Nintendo Sony has for example 2 more conferences planned in the next 4 weeks and at least one of those should give us a couple more new titles.

I've said this before in other threads but after TGS is over I'll make a thread with all announcements of the big 3 over the whole summer, then we can talk about who has more exclusives coming.

"So what Nintendo has the most games announced at the moment?" What indication is there that Sony will ever catch up? They fell further behind at E3 2014 and it's not like PS4 just released. Nintendo's biggest E3 for the WiiU was 2013, so why was Sony's 2014 so weak? The fact is WiiU often gets a lot of exclusives that never make it to PS/XB, and the gap is going to grow (just like it did for Wii). Unless you can show us why you expect this pattern to change, WiiU makes a metter 2nd console then PS4 or XB1.

Now stop stepping around the subject, you made an arguement based off false facts, and instead of admiting to being wrong, you choose to ignore facts? WiiU has more Retail, and Digital games then PS4. Like the Wii the number of exclusives (even if you only count the high quality ones) will grow. So tell me why will PS4 be a better secondary console then WiiU?

Regarding XB1, will you also admit WiiU is a better second console then XB1?

What if we don't see a difference after TGS? E3 was suppose to be both PS4's and XB1's time to shine, and neither announced anything big (this is why most gamers voted Nintendo as the winner for E3).

P.S. Regarding the PS4 Elimination game, Rime & Wild doing well means nothing. I've hosted a few of those games and seen a lot of meh do well. A lot of people vote up games which are about to die, so that they can downvote a more popular game they don't like, giving it a lower rank.

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Regarding digital games, how do you propose that you measure it? Few people will buy a $300-$400 console for 1 or 2 $20 digital games, but for 1 or 2 $70 retail games, they might. I bought my WiiU for XenoBlade Chronicles and Mario Kart 8 (only 2 games), but for a smaller budget arcade title.......that's quite the investment.

Yes maybe Wild, Rime are popular on VGC, but can you tell me that it will sell more then Pushmo World? Casual games tend to sell better, and Pushmo is made by Intelligent Systems (Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, Paper Mario) and they also have a track record to making quality games.

Where do you draw the cut-off on what counts for digital games? Like I said before there are about 130 digital games in development for the WiiU exclusively, much much more then the PS4, but can we count each of those on par to Pushmo World, Rime, Uncharted, Zelda, etc?

So how do we differentiate?

DerNebel said:
ninjaman003 said:

I get this strange feeling he knew you were going to see it anyway. I don't think it'd be that much different if he replied straight to your post. It would look more random and insensitive actually.

Talking about someone as if he's not there even though you know exactly that he's going to see it anyway is one of the rudest things you can do.

Maybe he didn't want to distract you from me. Clearly I'm not the only one who read our posts and has come to the conclusion that WiiU has more exclusives in development. So admit to being wrong.


You should also mention that there are tons offer-owned PS4's at each GameStop retailer and their own website andmany other places. And how people sold their Wii Us for a PS4 and then sold their PS4s for another Wii U, just like how people sold their 3DS for a PS Vita, and then sold their PS Vita for a 3DS XL. Also mention how the Xbox ONE is being slaughter by the Wii U every single week in sells.