"The Wii U is a better secondary console than the X1/PS4"

[Michael-5]

DerNebel said:

Michael-5 said:

My list of highly rated games fromlast gen includes 360/PC games, I didn't discriminate. I even counted Kinect games. No Man's Sky is releasing retail is it not? I'm only counting games available at retail. Indie games do mean something, but I can't give as much hype for Resogun as I can for Uncharted.

As for the Metacritic list, I wanted to cut it off at 90+, but there wasn't a huge difference so I went down to 80. 80+ is highly rated, below that would be a B which is just above average. As for your examples, those are terrible Gears Judgement made me, a hardcore Gears fan, give up on the franchise. Heavenly Sword is a 5 hour game and Blue Dragon is meh. Wii Fit on the other hand is actually pretty fun, have you ever played it? It sold 20 million plus, I don't think it's a bad game.

Tales of Xillia and Vesperia deserve credit, Japanese RPG's often get lower metascores then they should, but the fact that they don't make the cut off would put XB360 is a worse position. Tales of Vesperia didn't make the cut, but neither did Fire Emblem, or Pandora's Tower for the Wii.

As for that link, so much wrong with what you said.

a) That list is not a list of every game announced at E3, it's a list of games total. I said at E3, Nintendo announced the most, meaning that they are taking on more and more new projects. Sony and XB announced about 16 retail games each, where Nintendo announced closer to 30.

b) That list includes a lot of hypothetical games. You can't count an "annanounced IP" or "Hiring AAA Devs with at Least 8  years of Experience" or "Retro Studio's next game" because you don't know if it's going to happen and when. I mean Black Tusk was suppost to make a new Halo-level IP and scrapped it for Gears.

c) Even if you take that list, scrap out games which haven't officially been announced, you will see WiiU still has the most coming.

XB1 - 11
PS4 - 13 (+2 Vita)
WiiU - 11 (+4 3DS).... and WOW they are missing a lot of WiiU games. Here's a list

Sonic Boom
Kirby
Project Guard
Project Giant Robot
Yoshi
Devil's Third
Fatal Frame V
Dragon Quest X (been talk about localization for WiiU with DLC)

Nintendo announced more games, I'd have to look some up, but for now I showed that WiiU is at 18 overall, which is about 1.5 times as much as PS4/XB1. See how WiiU is on top? Just like the Wii was?

I'm not gonna answer your whole post, but you have most definitely not said announced at E3, you said announced. Also at what E3 has Nintendo announced 30 retail Wii U games? And 16 from MS and Sony each? What are you talking about?

And how on earth do you get only 13 PS4 titles from that list?

No word about a No Man's Sky retail release.

Bold: You're right, my bad. I still have E3 in my head. I remember after E3 I counted all the retail games, but I'd have to look back at an old post to find it. Nintendo announced a lot of retail games which don't get much press. e.g. Prof Layton vs. Phoenix Wright was announced for localization at E3, it's not on that list. It releases in a week. Art Acadamy is a retail game which was announced too.

As for 13 PS4 games, I didn't include digital games.

Bloodborne
Deep Down
DriveClub
Everyone's Gone to Rapture
LBP3
MLB: The Show
Ratchet & Clank
Singstar
The Order: 1886
The Last Guardian
Uncharted 5
Until Dawn

now I only have 12....hm...I think I counted InFamous DLC by mistake earlier.

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The answer to this thread however has been "It depends on your interests." WiiU is not going to appeal much to people who don't like Platformers/JRPG's/Miscellaneous, PS4 won't appeal much to people who don't like Action/Adventure games, and XB1 won't appeal much to people who don't like Shooters.

Personally I think because Nintendo's exclusives are so different from the exclusives that XB1/PS4 offer, along with the 3rd party games, and because Nintendo will have the most exclusives, WiiU is the best bet. However not everyone like Zelda, Starfox or XenoBlade, maybe that PS4 owner just wants some Halo and maybe that 360 owner wants some Gran Turismo.

To each their own, but Nintendo does offer the most in terms of quality and quantity for exclusives.

eva01beserk said:

Really getting anoying all the fanboys adding unanounced games on list to prove a point. The other consoles also have unanaunced games so then they complain why theirs deserves to be on the list and yours dosent. So I agree with you there, is better for nobody to use an unanaunced game. 

Anybody debating that MS has close the amount of exclusives as nintendo is delusional. Like it matters since they are all shooters mostly. Second place is for sony in the amount of exclusive. But on diversity they are pretty even with nintendo. Higher rated is complicated, cuz nintendo does trhrow out a lot of games, a lot of crap and a lot of good ones, sony mostly gives out good ones so its pretty even. MS fails at all, amount, diversity and higher rated.

Well said, I 100% agree.

Had I made the cut-off 95+/100, only Nintendo and Sony would be worth looking at. Nintendo and Sony both have 3 95+ exclusives (Super Mario's are each 97, Uncharted 2 is 96, and Zelda/LBP/TLoU are 95). Meanwhile the highest scored 360 game are Halo/Gears of War at 94.

Then again, if you specifically like Halo/Gears (like I do), they might be more important to you then TLoU or Mario, so at the end of the day it all really depends on what you want.