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yeah dude but you and everyone else can agree that the wii u released waaay to soon they just didn't have enough games flowing i really don't count 2013 i start the wii u from this year on because once mid 2015 hits april or so when X comes out by then (fingers crossed) with SSB on top of that and the fact that everyone knows the longer the system is around the easier it is for companies to figure out the infrastructure, so games can be made quicker and a lot better which can help attract some 3rd party support plus nintendo can start getting a streamline of games going with releases every 2 months or so every month coupled with 3rd party support. add N64 and gamecube Virtual Console/remakes and the wii u can really be a good system capable of selling at least 40 million. People are just jumping the gun way to early to say the wii u is a flop.