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LudicrousSpeed said:

Yeah I am aware of the post that was made that started this whole tangent. It's not really related to the thread at all, was just a drive by pot-shot at an entire fanbase.

lol @ "should disagree about". Why? Because VGC forum guy says so? Per usual you can't grasp the simple notion that different people value things differently.

Also maybe ISP's work differently where you live but where I live the apps Live gives you access to CAN allow you to watch things you'd normally have to pay for through your ISP which just makes the XBLG fee all the more of a value to some people. I, for example, can lease out one less cable box and still watch FIOS television thanks to the FIOS app on Live. That used to be locked behind a paywall, might still be. But I can even watch some networks that I don't/didn't have a subscription to. So it's even better. I know for some, the ESPN app was exactly the same. It seems you should take your own advice about keeping up. Maybe you just aren't following what he is trying to say? Idk.

But at the end of the day, who cares? Does it relate to EA Access in any way whatsoever other than you to point and mock people because they used to formerly support no longer existing services that you personally thought they shouldn't? I mean, ok. I guess some will take whatever victory they can.

Aaaaaaand you've missed the point yet again. 

It's all related because it's you guys, once again, backing something that is detrimental to the gaming industry. "Of course the same people who excused MS making you pay for online will excuse 3rd parties doing it because it's something on the Xbox". That's what you're doing. 

The topic's content may be a "tangent" (referring to this ESPN App, amongst other things, being acceptable to be behind a paywall even though you already pay for it), but it all falls back on the original accusation. Because you guys have been doing it for over a decade. 

I mean...."lol @ should disagree about? Why? Because VGC forum guys say so". No, because hiding the Netflix you already pay for behind XBL was wrong. Hiding Internet Explorer to use the internet you already pay for behind XBL was wrong. Hiding multiplayer, which is half of a game and was free everywhere else behind XBL is wrong. And the Xbox community said it was ok to do. Hence the lead up to "of course, the same people who excused all that other bad stuff will excuse the next bad thing".That being EA Access. We've already been wary about other publishers doing it, and all the Xbox side has done was "stop looking at this negatively. Quit speculating. You don't know that that's gonna happen" to try and support EA Access. And what happens? Activision and Ubisoft are already looking into getting their own subs now. 

On a side note: Xbox Live doesn't "give you access" to any apps. Any app available on Xbox can be found on other devices. Your FIOS, for example, can be found on any blu ray player with Samsung SmartHub. Or if you have an iPhone (or something with iOS), you can shoot it to your TV with Apple TV. Or just hook an HDMI cable up to your computer (or use Chromecast). And more. None of which make you pay a sub. And I don't know where you get that XBL lets you watch things you'd normally have to pay for with your ISP. Like what? What normally for-pay entertainment via your ISP can you get for "free" with XBL?