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BMaker11 on 20 August 2014
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Goatseye said:
BMaker11 said:
 

Wait...do you have an ESPN3 ISP affiliate for your internet, then? I just saw on the ESPN App's page on Xbox.com that for live and On-Demand games, you log in with an ESPN3.com-affiliated internet service provider.

That just means, though, that you pay for your internet and your ISP provides you with the perk of all those games by being partnered with ESPN. That has nothing to do with Microsoft "give you anything in return". Long story short, you have to log in in some manner to the ESPN App via a service you already pay for to get the sports (whether it be your television provider or apparently, select ISPs). What, do you think if you just get XBL, you get a bunch of free basketball, baseball, football, etc? No, you have to already pay for that in some way, then pay for XBL again to access the ESPN App to watch what you have already paid for......before the policy reversal 

$32 dollars a year for XBL ain't nothing to a G.

Instead of buying the rights to matches from sports association for a fee, which would not be small, why not partner up with Sky or ESPN to offer sport matches exclusively to your subscribers?

Which also, would allow me to party chat with a friend in New York, to watch the same game and trash talk while we both enjoy it. I don't think that's "nothing in return" to me.

You're missing the point that XBL was entirely unnecessary for any of that. Before the policy reversal, you were still paying to use stuff you already paid for (in this case, your ESPN partnered ISP giving you lots of sports). Whoop-de-doo. The operating system actually works, so you can chat with your friends. But was XBL necessary to watch ESPN together? Nope.

Nothing in return. All those things you just needed an internet connection for, Xbox fans said it was ok to tack on another fee to use them. Did you know that Internet Explorer was behind XBL? As in, you pay for your internet, then you have to pay again to use it on Xbox. This is the issue that thismeintel brought up and that I expounded on. Xbox fans continuously support putting content behind paywalls, making your initial investments worth a whole lot less, and you get nothing in return for it. It's a slippery slope