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Munkeh said:
 

Lets start at the top, how have you not heard of Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, lair and Haze. There have been multiple threads on this forum and many gaving websites have had previews concerning these games, and nearly every single one has been extremely positive. You also say that Assassins Creed and GTA IV will not shift hardware, but they will

You also say that the 360 has more processing power; what are you on about. There have been reports talking about the video card power, but that is something comepletely differenet

Now lets move onto your four main points

  1. There is no real competition; do you remember that the 360 has struggled to outsell the PS2 for a long while, is that not competition enough.
  2. Price, O.K. this is true, but of course the price is going to drop and most people will realise that it is worth it for all the exclusives
  3. What are these amazing 360 games, GRAW and Oblivion, which are all now avaliable on the PS3, plus Uncharted, R & C, probably Killzone, Lair, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, maybe MGS 4 + more

You also say that you do not think that Europe will get a 500,000 unit seller, I seem to remember that Sony announced that MotorStorm and Resistance have both been announced as selling more than that

You also say that the PS3's faltering sales in Japan will stop it. I seem to notice that the 360 has only sold about 350,000 units compared to PS3's roughly 900,000 sales.

Personally, I think that it will reach it by January, thanks to very strong sales throughout the holiday season. I would guess that sales will increase a bit in late June and July, thanks to RSV, NGS and Lair


Er... I am as hardcore as gamers get and have no idea what Uncharted and Haze are.  I have heard Uncharted mentioned but not even any MENTION of Haze till here...  The definition of a system seller is a game that is so important to people that they will buy a new game system JUST to play that game.  If Assasin's Creed and GTAIV are on a cheaper system, then, as system sellers, THAT is the system that will get the sales boost. 

1. I agree, the PS2 was somewhat of a competition.  Still, nowhere near the kind of competition the PS3 is facing right now with the Wii (and to a lesser extent the 360).  

2. Worth means nothing.  I think the PS3 is worth it, but I still can't afford it.  Affordability matters above all else, and that barrier will not broken by ANY amount of good games.  

3. Again, you are naming games that are (or at least have the chance to be) good, but are new to the market and COMPLETELY untested.  There is no chance of these being system sellers.  They are nice bonuses for people who already own the system though.

Have Resistance and Motorstorm sold more than 500K in Europe, because according to this website they aren't even close.

Yes the PS3's sales are better in Japan than the 360's, but that's like comparing Dumb and dumber.  You are looking at bad and unbelievably bad.  

 

I like the PS3, but I'm also a reasonable man.  I don't expect it to hit till around 22 months, maybe a little earlier depending on price drops.