Back early, and just in time to see Wright's suicide. Sorry dude.
| Sparks said: I'm going to write down a few scenarios, and I want you guys' opinions on the assumptions and conclusions. It'll be a while, so while I write I want to ask a few questions and reexamine some things, to make sure we're on the same page. I'd really love more than one reply. 1. Do we believe padib is confirmed town? I know nothing can be confirmed, but you know what I mean. Could someone please explain why they think he is? I just want to here someone else's thoughts besides my own. 2. Same thing with outlawauron, but to a lesser degree. We think he's town because of his reaction, but he didn't bother to leave a will like every other person who was about to die (or at least thought they were). 3. Based on the games I looked at, and the number of players in this game (15), I think we have four mafia. However, in narrowing down my suspects, I only consistently get two (MrKhan and Trucks). The good thing about that is I'm almost certain they're scum, Trucks moreso than Khan. The bad news is the others are good at hiding. I do have some "maybes", but that can wait for later. Also, I don't have enough suspects for a multi-factioned game, so there's that. 4. Cone's claim. I want to give my thoughts and here others' ...Towny: 1. He's new and probably wouldn't have thought of such a lie (and make it look like a slip no less) on his own (no daytalk), especially with the risk of counter claim 2. His style seems consistent with his personality, reserved. Scummy: 1. Lack of participation 2. The possibility of a broken combo, though I think this can be mitigated with a strongman and/or roleblocker. |
1. Not confirmed 100%, but as close to it as we have at the moment. Lynch-preventing scum is too much of a dick move.
2. "We" don't think he's town (or scum). I place little import on his reaction. If padib is town, then outlaw should not have any idea whether padib was bluffing or not. Not voting to lynch yourself isn't a town or scum move, in my opinion.
3. Seems a bit low to me: the usual rule is 1/3, as I recall, so I'd put it at 5 or 6 (depending on the number of scum factions, which I believe stands at two).
4. On the Town side, you forgot 3. No counterclaim, although that could be because there is a real doctor who doesn't want to die early...
On the Scum side, you forgot 3. Still alive despite outing self early 4. Lots of kill-stoppers (between 3-4 town players that we know of would have the power to stop a death in some form, assuming padib and rct are town and cone is honest) 5. Weird choice for a protection
| Sparks said: 3. Thief: |
Without saying anything more, I can confirm that not all abilities come from items.
I would also point out some faulty conclusions here, even if the entire portion was correct. 1) Serial Killers (and mafias) occasionally switch kill days. 2) rct being "bulletproof" would not confirm town-ness, nor could it be certain what faction this Thief is aligned with 3) We actually don't have any confirmation of prof's alignment at the moment, since even if he was targeted last night (likely in light of the lack of counter-claims) we do not know whether another faction's attack was prevented by another player.
Ah, I see hylian stole some of my thunder.
| HylianSwordsman said: Also, wouldn't a person know if they'd been bussed? |
Not necessarily. In fact, I think they usually don't.
| Nicklesbe said: What I found most suspicious about him was that he pushed so hard to test Padib's claim. He seemed most vocal in getting him to waste his one shot. |
If you're going to use that as your primary basis, then you'd have to include about half the players, myself included. Also, don't forget that padib didn't reveal that one-time part until the 11th and a half hour, by which time his story had changed a half dozen times. I don't even remember if Truck was around when the reveal was made, either.
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