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Aielyn on 17 August 2014
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Intrinsic said:
I honestly don't know what his problem is... he is selectively looking at the "facts" he wants to see and even worse in a way that would suit his stance.

In 2014.

 

  • PS4: 5.5M sold (adjusted using sony's annouced 10M consoles sold, VGC has it at 4.8+M)
  • WiiU: 1.5M sold (but hell, lets adjust it up to 2M to make people like him happy, added an imaginary 500k)
  • XB1: 1.9M sold (again, lets adjust this up to 2.4M, also adding an imaginary 500k)

So WiiU + XB1 real(and adjusted totals) = 3.4M (4.4M adjusted)

So

 

  • PS4 is 5.5M adjusted with sony announcement compared to 4.4M for the wiiU+XB1 after adding an imaginary 1M worth of sales to them. 
  • PS4 is 5.5M to the WiiU+XB1 3.4M is using VGCs current numbers for them. (61% of total PS4 sales)
  • PS4 is 4.8M (using pre adjusted VGC current numbers) to 3.4M for wiiU+XB1

I cannot think of how anyone will look at these numbers and say/suggest that the PS4 is not selling at an overall faster rate... unless

  1. The person disputes sony's announcement and suggests its a convenient lie cause they didn't make a press release announcing that milestone instead of choosing to wait a week or so (which they did) to announce at at a global media briefing.

  2. The person has no concept of averages and how if sampling any time period of data it is always best to use an average as a baseline rather than focus on whatever natural factors (eg new game being released, price drop..etc) skew numbers in either direction.

  3. The person is delusional (used literally and not as an insult so pls to whom it may concern look up the literal definition to see how it applies to this) and his/her inclinations/preferences has completely clouded his/her  ability to reason and/or process statistical evidence and thus makes the exception the rule or simply sensationalizes everything and contorts the facts. 

  4. The person bases his/her reasoning on generally shared constants across a sample base (eg. new wanted/popular game or price drop that will boost sales of which ever benefiting platform they happen for) and somehow manages to forget that what he/she is saying can and will also apply to the other platforms eg. WiiU had MK8 and PS4 will have Destiny (or insert any other system supposed system seller there).
So yeah, but my being in this thread wasn't even about this cause I felt all this was obvious. If the PS4s YTD means that its outsold both WiiU+XB1, then that also means that its monthly avergaes will show the same thing. Not considering those generaly shared constants I mentioned. So I didn't see the need to have to point this all out to people cause obviously anyone that doesn't see that is already looking at it how they want to look at it. I really just came here to understand this boost people keep talking about in relation to the WiiU.

I'm not going to waste my time with arguments with you, now, but I'm going to point out a few things, here.

1. Calling somebody delusional IS an insult, whether you mean it literally or not. It's asserting that the person has a loose grasp on reality, and the only way for that to not be an insult is if you're a psychiatrist and have extensively studied my psyche and determined me to be suffering from delusions.

2. Taking an average over 7 months is not how one goes about a statistical analysis, when circumstances change during that time. What you have done is equivalent to looking at the first three years of the Wii's life, comparing it with PS3 and 360 values at the same time, and concluding that the Wii would end up, at the end of its life, having 48% of the console market for the generation. Circumstances change.

3. The only person who has been ignoring that things can be applied to other platforms is you. I asserted that the effects of various games in the coming months would affect all of the systems. I pointed out that MK8 affected Wii U, and that the price drop affected the XBO, and noted that all three systems had system-sellers on the way. The fact that my lack of mention of Destiny bothers you says something about you, not me. Destiny is just one of the many games due to release on various systems in the next four months, and need not be specifically discussed. Or were you trying to assert that Destiny would affect PS4 more than all other games would affect any system, and thus somehow deserves special mention?

4. Talking about someone effectively behind their back by posting about them in reply to another user, attacking them, and selectively looking at facts while accusing them of selectively looking at facts is highly questionable behaviour.

By the way, if we're just going to take averages over a relatively arbitrary period of time, let's use a different arbitrary period of time: Even after the PS4 bump to 10 million, total LTD sales of the three platforms works out to 21.9 million, so PS4 is less than half of that number. So the average sales of the three systems since the start of the generation has Wii U + XBO ahead of PS4. That's what happens when you ignore changes in circumstances.