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darkshadow23 said:
Machiavellian said:
overman1 said:
Machiavellian said:

Both Japan Studio and Santa Monica are basically publishing arms of Sony Worldwide Studios. What you call co-develop is in actuality just another publishing deal. 

Either way, From software a 3rd party developer is contracted to create this game or sign a contract from Sony to develop the game on their platform.  Its pretty much the same thing as Sunset Overdrive.  Developers making deals with platform holders to create games. 

how the hell do YOU know that?

Everyone is suddenly has access to privy information now? 

how do you know the true extent of SOny Japan's involvement in developing the project. 

Because on Sony own website, they only list the 3rd party developer as the developer for the project and not their own studio.  Lets take Bloodborne and The Order.  Out of all the press, demos, statements and interviews, no where do you read anything about Japan Studio or Santa Monica contribution to the project.  I took a decent amount of time looking but I could find nothing.

I will say my statement is more opinion and educated guess then actually any real data.  The fact that both studios are also a publishing arm of Sony would suggest that if they are partnering with 3rd party developers not owned by Sony, they its a publishing contract. 


Even if you are right about Bloodborne and The Order, I don't see any problem with it. Assuming you are right it is exactly like Sunset Overdrive. The only thing I have a problem with is stuff like Tomb Raider and I'm only using that as an example because it is the most recent.

I do not see any problem with it at all.  If anything its a great way for developers to secure funding for challenging projects.  You can definitely see that bloodborne and The Order are high quality games so having the freedom to know the check is paid eases development for these companies.  What I am saying is that developers need money and making your game exclusive to a console maker so you can worry about making the game more than securing the paycheck is nothng to frown on.

I believe gamers have this unrealistic view about the games industry.  They totally forget that making games cost a lot of money or the easily forget this point.  As it cost more money to bring games like Bloodborne and The Order to gamers so does the investment and risk.  While its moneyhatting to gamers, I am sure to the developers its an investment in their company as well as their game.  I way I see it, its this selfish entitlement gamers have that blind then to very real needs developers have.