X-Box 360 numbers.

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Kwaad said: Death2009 said: The 360 is $400...Where are you getting that extra $300 from? 6 years of online. The thing I hate about the 360. I *HATE* paying *MORE* for online than I already do. (unless it's a MMO)

And when Sony offers 1/2 of what XBL does, then I'd agree that I wouldn't want to pay more. However, the 360 has an insane amount of content - new XBLA games every week if not more, every game or nearly every game has a demo, downloadable TV/movies, game trailers, ect, ect, ect. MS forces nearly every game to have online in some form or fasion, it's merely giving back to MS for what they've done. Kwaad, stop pulling numbers out of the air. Not everyone has or uses online. I can't get broadband where I live, and am forced to go into a town to hook up my 360 to download anything. And FYI, the silver membership (ie, the free one) is fairly good. You can't play games, which sucks, but you can do everything else, which is still very very good for the wealth of content that the 360 has. About the PS3 Euro-launch: I am certain that the European launch will do well. However: By march/april, the 360 had sold around 3.5m units worldwide. If the PS3 has, on VGcharts.org, by april 15, that it's sold 3.5m units, then I'll consider the worldwide launch of the PS3 very good. However, if it does not, then it's considererd not as good as the 360. I think your trying to compare the 360 vs. PS3 too much - they launched in different years, with different numbers in different nations. Either way, if Sony really has shipped 4m units and only 2m have sold, Sony is doing horribly. However, if its closer to 2.5m shipped...It's okay. At this time last year, 360s were still sold out everywhere in the US - just like the PS3 typically is. What will matter is where the PS3 is in March-October, when the 360 averaged 240-270k units. If it does better, then it'll be a more formidable US compeditor. Also, your trying to argue a system that SHOULD sell MUCH BETTER versus the 360. Again, even at $600, Sony should be doing even better considering where they've been before this system in terms of sales and revenue. However, at this point, between only 2m sold and losing so many games to multi-dev on the 360, one can question them. However, again, I will re-iterate my beliefs: The PS3 has done well (not great, not horridly) thus far. It's about where it should be at a $500-$600 price tag + considering the difficulty of manufacturing such a complex system. However, you can't really answer the question of the PS3 vs. 360, because Sony is only 3-4 months into their sales vs. 360's 14+ months. We have to see how long the lifecycle of each system is. If the PS3 goes as long as they think (6-7 years) and the 360 is the average (5-6 years), then the launch data is semi-imporant. However, if the PS3 only lasts 5 years like the 360 will, then its near-moot, as 360 has a huge lead on the PS3.