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Avro1958 said:
walsufnir said:

"On a roll" First users hated MS for bundling Kinect, the whole internet was against MS. Then they "listen" to customers and change this and now this is also negative. MS just can't win for some, no matter what they're doing.


That's one way to spin it... MS did not change because they "listened" I am sure PR will spin it that way, they saw the market share they had in the US evaporate! They told us that the XB1 would never release without Kinect, it could not! The Kinect was VERY important to what MS was trying to do... Then they do it. They lied about it. It could have been done and should have been done from the start. In this case the consumers MS pissed off are not stupid... it's not rocket science the consumer handed MS there ass on a platter and now they are back tracking. Don't confuse these changes as good will under the guise of "listening", MS made horrible mistakes with hardware and PR and are now running scared trying to fix them.


Ok, I know now where you are coming from and think the best way now is to stop this discussion.

Have fun on the forums, though!